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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: If HRC IS nominated, she will HAVE to get every Sanders voter behind her to win... [View all]basselope
(2,565 posts)31. Hillary Clinton IS the trainwreck.
If her last name was not Clinton, she would have been knocked out of the primaries LONG LONG AGO.
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If HRC IS nominated, she will HAVE to get every Sanders voter behind her to win... [View all]
Ken Burch
Jun 2016
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The headline is factually incorrect. Hillary doesn't need every single Bernie voter to vote for her
qdouble
Jun 2016
#2
Yeah, there's a good section of BS supporters who don't like 99% of democrats in the first place..
qdouble
Jun 2016
#11
"hate Hillary before and after the primary" - you are once more missing the point:
Betty Karlson
Jun 2016
#66
Some have repeatedly said that there is no difference between Hillary or trump even though
qdouble
Jun 2016
#69
JPR calls her a corporatist, so far as I could read. That is not pejorative.
Betty Karlson
Jun 2016
#71
Come on now, on JPR they have a thread made just for trying to find the most deragotory
qdouble
Jun 2016
#74
Most polling shows higher support than 55%, but regardless, historically, nominees will
qdouble
Jun 2016
#118
The latest YouGov poll says 55%. And Clinton never regains what she has lost.
Betty Karlson
Jun 2016
#129
Indeed: 55% is not Bernie or Bust. But 45 % is too many for Clinton to win.
Betty Karlson
Jun 2016
#149
You're being intentionally obtuse if you don't see that there is a big difference between
qdouble
Jun 2016
#154
Yes, but all that is part of a rapidly disappearing political-cultural model
Betty Karlson
Jun 2016
#172
Hating a person doesn't require that you personally use the word hate to describe your
qdouble
Jun 2016
#171
Yes, let's all pretend that every thing I say comes from JPR, so we can summarily dismiss it.
Betty Karlson
Jun 2016
#151
Here's the problem with that "voting record", the congress is mostly corporatist. Most of the
glowing
Jun 2016
#105
What's the point of that hypothetical when congress isn't going to magically disappear?
qdouble
Jun 2016
#107
I'm having a hard time believing that Bernie will command as much sway as his supporters think he
qdouble
Jun 2016
#169
93.% similar? A chimps dna is 98% the same as yours its that 2% that makes the difference.
SwampG8r
Jun 2016
#161
Dismissing any areas in which they agree on as being trivial is just being divisive.
qdouble
Jun 2016
#202
How nice of you to broaden that brush so all his supporters can be painted with it.
Betty Karlson
Jun 2016
#133
If you find the sarcasm insulting, it's because it's touched a nerve with you.
Betty Karlson
Jun 2016
#144
I didn't know referring to a person by their initials was an insult, but whatever.
qdouble
Jun 2016
#93
I see people type H, HRC and HC all the time... I've never seen anyone take offense to it.
qdouble
Jun 2016
#101
Are you assuming that very few if any Democrats will cross over to vote for Trump?
JDPriestly
Jun 2016
#38
Trump may get some white male crossover, I seriously doubt he'll gain much of any traction
qdouble
Jun 2016
#96
I'm sure some will vote for Trump... but I can't imagine that most will switch at a higher rate than
qdouble
Jun 2016
#95
I specifically said "as long as they don't vote for Trump" in reference to BoBers.
Garrett78
Jun 2016
#183
Exactly, there are good number of Indies and assorted lefties (even Paulistas) who wouldn't have
JCMach1
Jun 2016
#198
You think it will be entertaining to watch a racist loon get elected to prove a point?
qdouble
Jun 2016
#13
Enough with the bullshit. You didn't magically start hating Hillary a negative post by a Hillary
qdouble
Jun 2016
#29
Saying that Hillary doesn't need every single Bernie supporter alienates independents?
qdouble
Jun 2016
#45
Honestly, I think Hillary has a 90% chance of winning and I think you're pretty shit at predicting
qdouble
Jun 2016
#53
Running on stopping Trump is just another variation of "Not as bad as the other guy"
hobbit709
Jun 2016
#91
More people want to identify as independents...I understand that as I don't agree with
qdouble
Jun 2016
#49
Some aren't Democrats, but we should be changing the party to make them WANT to be.
Ken Burch
Jun 2016
#54
No, she won't. They're welcome to join us, but we'll manage without them if we have to do that.
MADem
Jun 2016
#8
No Republican voter will ever vote against the GOP presidential ticket again.
Ken Burch
Jun 2016
#21
Obama beat Romney by fewer than five million votes. You want to spot Trump ten million?
Jim Lane
Jun 2016
#85
That is your choice. You can sit on the sidelines of history, or you can tell your
MADem
Jun 2016
#123
If Clinton runs a good campaign, she will win. If she doesn't, she will lose.
Scootaloo
Jun 2016
#60
If Hillary loses because a very large amount of Bernie voters don't vote for her
qdouble
Jun 2016
#73
Me contemplating a hypothetical situation doesn't mean that I believe Hillary will lose.
qdouble
Jun 2016
#81
#1) I didn't vote for either Bernie or Hillary, as I said, I don't really care which one of them
qdouble
Jun 2016
#83
We as a society get the candidates we deserve, not necessarily the best candidate.
qdouble
Jun 2016
#88
Focusing purely on fearmongering about the GOP is not a positive route forward though.
Kentonio
Jun 2016
#124
When I moved I registered as an Independent... it doesn't mean that I'm not going to vote D.
qdouble
Jun 2016
#148
Eh, the Democratic party will be better off without a bunch of young privileged malcontents
Fumesucker
Jun 2016
#17
Sorry, we're busy in our special place in hell looking for boys and free stuff (nt)
jeff47
Jun 2016
#175
It is a shame that some supporters of each candidate (Clinton and Sanders) have convinced themselves
Tal Vez
Jun 2016
#36
Hmmmmm......for me, the difference is that Hillary is for war and fracking and Third Way
djean111
Jun 2016
#104
I think they are still trying to figure out how to ban Bernie & his delegates from the convention.
reformist2
Jun 2016
#40
Don't you think the GOP trolls are just hard at work trying to make this as bitter
applegrove
Jun 2016
#44
To win over Bernie supporters she's going to have to do a much better job of faking sincerity. n/t
Binkie The Clown
Jun 2016
#46
Bernie supporters in the real world are nothing like his crowd on DU. it will not be a problem nt
msongs
Jun 2016
#47
I'm am SICK of hearing that pointing out disastrous policy stance is tearing down a candidate.
onecaliberal
Jun 2016
#178
hillary doesn't need every sanders supporters....she'll have 85-90% that matter
beachbum bob
Jun 2016
#97
And you can believe Hillary on this because she has done it before. Bernie, on the other hand...
Jitter65
Jun 2016
#116
*WHEN* HRC IS nominated, every Sanders voter will HAVE to get behind her to ensure Trump loses.
baldguy
Jun 2016
#111
This thread is revisionist history. I've read hundreds of threads that call Hillary a "baby killer"
Trust Buster
Jun 2016
#146
How do you reason with people openly rooting for an indictment? You don't coddle delusions.
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#157
I really think this is in the minds of bernie supporters. Everyone wants to unite
MariaThinks
Jun 2016
#176
Well, now you know how it's felt being a Hillary Clinton supporter on the internet
anigbrowl
Jun 2016
#187
The lesson that the DNC should have learned with Nader and the 2000 election
intheflow
Jun 2016
#190
Needless to say, Trump will get tens of millions of votes. There are many Marens to be sure.
Garrett78
Jun 2016
#214