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Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
177. How would Sanders have done it after some of his supporters have....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:28 AM
Jun 2016

... directed so much hate and derision at Clinton supporters?

At this point, I am done placating. Either the Sandernistas acknowledge her victory aqnd the importance of beating Trump, or they do not. Some of them have whipped themselves into such a frenzy of Clinton-hate that there is likely nothing she could say that they would accept, so why bother?

I had a post earlier in the day nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #1
The headline is factually incorrect. Hillary doesn't need every single Bernie voter to vote for her qdouble Jun 2016 #2
I think she just needs the bulk of those who voted for Obama. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #9
Yeah, there's a good section of BS supporters who don't like 99% of democrats in the first place.. qdouble Jun 2016 #11
"hate Hillary before and after the primary" - you are once more missing the point: Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #66
Some have repeatedly said that there is no difference between Hillary or trump even though qdouble Jun 2016 #69
JPR calls her a corporatist, so far as I could read. That is not pejorative. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #71
Come on now, on JPR they have a thread made just for trying to find the most deragotory qdouble Jun 2016 #74
And yet, most Bernie supporters only hate what Clinton represents. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #76
Well according to polls, the majority of BS supporters will vote for Clinton qdouble Jun 2016 #77
55% would vote for her - which is below the 60 - 70% she needs. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #114
Most polling shows higher support than 55%, but regardless, historically, nominees will qdouble Jun 2016 #118
The latest YouGov poll says 55%. And Clinton never regains what she has lost. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #129
Historically speaking "once her lead is gone, it's gone" qdouble Jun 2016 #142
Indeed: 55% is not Bernie or Bust. But 45 % is too many for Clinton to win. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #149
You're being intentionally obtuse if you don't see that there is a big difference between qdouble Jun 2016 #154
Yes, but all that is part of a rapidly disappearing political-cultural model Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #172
You're referring to the 'anti-establishment vote'? Reiyuki Jun 2016 #179
So they "hate" her, as you say. So what? pangaia Jun 2016 #164
Sounds to me like you do hate her qdouble Jun 2016 #166
Everybody here throws around that word... pangaia Jun 2016 #170
Hating a person doesn't require that you personally use the word hate to describe your qdouble Jun 2016 #171
I didn't even say I have any 'feelings' about her. pangaia Jun 2016 #173
Betty, 1) Those who hate what she supposedly Hortensis Jun 2016 #103
Hortensis, 1) claiming millennials and lefties who don't vote for her Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #126
Wallowing in propaganda is not research. Hortensis Jun 2016 #128
projection is not retort Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #130
They got told by the moderators for it, too. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #165
If you get your information from JPR Andy823 Jun 2016 #143
Yes, let's all pretend that every thing I say comes from JPR, so we can summarily dismiss it. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #151
Here's the problem with that "voting record", the congress is mostly corporatist. Most of the glowing Jun 2016 #105
What's the point of that hypothetical when congress isn't going to magically disappear? qdouble Jun 2016 #107
A bully pulpit and energized populace that doesn't go home. glowing Jun 2016 #162
I'm having a hard time believing that Bernie will command as much sway as his supporters think he qdouble Jun 2016 #169
Ignore those people, then. pangaia Jun 2016 #160
93.% similar? A chimps dna is 98% the same as yours its that 2% that makes the difference. SwampG8r Jun 2016 #161
That "93%" figure comes from the inclusion of... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #201
Dismissing any areas in which they agree on as being trivial is just being divisive. qdouble Jun 2016 #202
My point was not that there is an absence of agreement... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #203
"Little to no personal animus" lol rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #131
How nice of you to broaden that brush so all his supporters can be painted with it. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #133
All you have rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #136
If you find the sarcasm insulting, it's because it's touched a nerve with you. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #144
Oooh "I'm rubber you're glue" rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #182
No. You may be projecting. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #186
Just another member of the vampire castle here. BlindTiresias Jun 2016 #210
" How can you be so tin-eared?" pangaia Jun 2016 #158
Using the term BS is an insult. peace13 Jun 2016 #92
I didn't know referring to a person by their initials was an insult, but whatever. qdouble Jun 2016 #93
I'm sure you know. peace13 Jun 2016 #99
I see people type H, HRC and HC all the time... I've never seen anyone take offense to it. qdouble Jun 2016 #101
Are you assuming that very few if any Democrats will cross over to vote for Trump? JDPriestly Jun 2016 #38
They ingore the conservadems that crossed for Reagan nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #50
Trump may get some white male crossover, I seriously doubt he'll gain much of any traction qdouble Jun 2016 #96
True, but Hillary epitomizes "Conservadem", so no worries there. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #145
Those aren't the folks who voted for Obama. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #184
I'm sure some will vote for Trump... but I can't imagine that most will switch at a higher rate than qdouble Jun 2016 #95
What you think is not based in reality. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #117
I specifically said "as long as they don't vote for Trump" in reference to BoBers. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #183
Exactly, there are good number of Indies and assorted lefties (even Paulistas) who wouldn't have JCMach1 Jun 2016 #198
No, i dont think so MFM008 Jun 2016 #3
Guilty as charged nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #5
You think it will be entertaining to watch a racist loon get elected to prove a point? qdouble Jun 2016 #13
I am not a democrat remember nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #25
Enough with the bullshit. You didn't magically start hating Hillary a negative post by a Hillary qdouble Jun 2016 #29
This might be a shock for you nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #32
What have I said to alienate independents in particular? qdouble Jun 2016 #39
Reread your posts nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #42
Saying that Hillary doesn't need every single Bernie supporter alienates independents? qdouble Jun 2016 #45
Actually she will nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #48
Honestly, I think Hillary has a 90% chance of winning and I think you're pretty shit at predicting qdouble Jun 2016 #53
Honestly "Trump should not be the nominee" nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #55
Trump was elected by republicans. For years their whole movement was home qdouble Jun 2016 #58
And the democrats and pundits under estimated him nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #59
Expected by who? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #125
By acting as if "Stopping Trump" is all that matters. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #51
Running on stopping Trump is just another variation of "Not as bad as the other guy" hobbit709 Jun 2016 #91
Yup. Shadowflash Jun 2016 #137
I was talking about democrats MFM008 Jun 2016 #18
Well, there is that about Trump nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #26
Tell me all the ways you find Republicans more welcoming than democrats. qdouble Jun 2016 #30
Actually neither has a big tent nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #34
So republicans are alienating independents at the same clip? qdouble Jun 2016 #37
Yes, actually nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #43
More people want to identify as independents...I understand that as I don't agree with qdouble Jun 2016 #49
And some of us will do with our franchisse what we will do with it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #52
Yep! Duval Jun 2016 #219
If your not a democrat why the DU? MFM008 Jun 2016 #84
Some aren't Democrats, but we should be changing the party to make them WANT to be. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #54
Bernie voters turning out to help elect Hillary? Califonz Jun 2016 #4
I like the ongoing belief from Hillarians that she's... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #106
getting your last insults in before the 16th? redstateblues Jun 2016 #204
That's not an insult... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #212
Good luck. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #6
Yup nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #7
No, she won't. They're welcome to join us, but we'll manage without them if we have to do that. MADem Jun 2016 #8
Dream on. grasswire Jun 2016 #12
Life WILL be a dream. Count on it. Can't wait until HRC is sworn in! nt MADem Jun 2016 #16
bookmarking. nt grasswire Jun 2016 #23
Right back atcha! nt MADem Jun 2016 #120
No Republican voter will ever vote against the GOP presidential ticket again. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #21
Really? You'll want to have a word with this bunch-they didn't get the memo! MADem Jun 2016 #127
Hillary who? avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #28
Hillary Rodham Clinton, 45th President of the United States. MADem Jun 2016 #132
Obama beat Romney by fewer than five million votes. You want to spot Trump ten million? Jim Lane Jun 2016 #85
That number of which you speak grows smaller by the day. nt MADem Jun 2016 #119
Good.. coco77 Jun 2016 #112
That is your choice. You can sit on the sidelines of history, or you can tell your MADem Jun 2016 #123
You know this will be a hard one for me.. coco77 Jun 2016 #138
You own your vote, do what you must. MADem Jun 2016 #167
I'm beginning to see the hatred and spite as some kind of impetus... grasswire Jun 2016 #10
Who "bears the consequences" if Trump gets elected? qdouble Jun 2016 #15
It isn't Bernie voters who have allowed that possibility. grasswire Jun 2016 #19
After your candidate loses... qdouble Jun 2016 #27
No the problem is KULawHawk Jun 2016 #57
Trump IS the corrupt candidate. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #134
If Clinton runs a good campaign, she will win. If she doesn't, she will lose. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #60
I think that there's a 90% chance of Hillary winning... qdouble Jun 2016 #62
But that's exactly what you're doing Scootaloo Jun 2016 #63
Nope, not at all. qdouble Jun 2016 #64
But who said anything of the sort? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #70
If Hillary loses because a very large amount of Bernie voters don't vote for her qdouble Jun 2016 #73
Basically you're trying to have your cake and eat it. Kentonio Jun 2016 #79
Me contemplating a hypothetical situation doesn't mean that I believe Hillary will lose. qdouble Jun 2016 #81
It's your hypothetical scenario that is cowardly. Kentonio Jun 2016 #82
#1) I didn't vote for either Bernie or Hillary, as I said, I don't really care which one of them qdouble Jun 2016 #83
I don't think she'll lose. Kentonio Jun 2016 #86
We as a society get the candidates we deserve, not necessarily the best candidate. qdouble Jun 2016 #88
Why do we keep tolerating weak candidates though? Kentonio Jun 2016 #89
For one, we don't all agree on who or what makes a weak candidate qdouble Jun 2016 #90
People don't generally think the system is going to change overnight Kentonio Jun 2016 #108
There's always brewing dissatisfaction in politics... qdouble Jun 2016 #109
There have been great improvements in social progress. Kentonio Jun 2016 #110
Well some of Sanders success in funding I'll also put to technology qdouble Jun 2016 #113
Focusing purely on fearmongering about the GOP is not a positive route forward though. Kentonio Jun 2016 #124
Focusing on defeating the other side isn't just fear mongering, it's reality. qdouble Jun 2016 #135
Why is it so hard to understand? Kentonio Jun 2016 #141
When I moved I registered as an Independent... it doesn't mean that I'm not going to vote D. qdouble Jun 2016 #148
Zee chance, she is a fat, no? dchill Jun 2016 #14
Eh, the Democratic party will be better off without a bunch of young privileged malcontents Fumesucker Jun 2016 #17
k/r I applaud your effort at peacemaking. AtomicKitten Jun 2016 #20
I understand. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #24
Hillary Clinton IS the trainwreck. basselope Jun 2016 #31
They're smug. Smug, smug will tear us apart again. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #72
We need a new order, lovemydog Jun 2016 #78
Clinton has reached out to Sanders supporters Buzz cook Jun 2016 #33
Like when she implied they were naive and lazy? Kentonio Jun 2016 #80
proving my point Buzz cook Jun 2016 #191
Proving your point, if your point was that she's tone deaf. Kentonio Jun 2016 #199
So in the internet world Buzz cook Jun 2016 #200
She didn't 'reach out to them', she insulted them. Kentonio Jun 2016 #206
Do we see this as reaching out? Miles Archer Jun 2016 #163
We might see this as reaching out Buzz cook Jun 2016 #192
I'm talking about what her husband said. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #194
Is he running? Buzz cook Jun 2016 #195
He's an active member of the Clinton campaign. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #196
Was this your direct question? Buzz cook Jun 2016 #197
Sorry, we're busy in our special place in hell looking for boys and free stuff (nt) jeff47 Jun 2016 #175
And there we have the instant Buzz cook Jun 2016 #193
You think it's possible to turn around a year of attacks in a day? jeff47 Jun 2016 #205
That's ok Buzz cook Jun 2016 #216
I don't get it Trenzalore Jun 2016 #35
It is a shame that some supporters of each candidate (Clinton and Sanders) have convinced themselves Tal Vez Jun 2016 #36
Hmmmmm......for me, the difference is that Hillary is for war and fracking and Third Way djean111 Jun 2016 #104
+1000 lmbradford Jun 2016 #181
I think they are still trying to figure out how to ban Bernie & his delegates from the convention. reformist2 Jun 2016 #40
Won't happen. elleng Jun 2016 #41
Don't you think the GOP trolls are just hard at work trying to make this as bitter applegrove Jun 2016 #44
I'm familiar with the term(Watergate happened when I was in junior high). Ken Burch Jun 2016 #56
Agreed. applegrove Jun 2016 #185
Said without even a trace of awareness at the irony n/t Scootaloo Jun 2016 #61
To win over Bernie supporters she's going to have to do a much better job of faking sincerity. n/t Binkie The Clown Jun 2016 #46
Bernie supporters in the real world are nothing like his crowd on DU. it will not be a problem nt msongs Jun 2016 #47
Hopefully, the same can be said of HRC supporters. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #67
In 2008 I was all for Obama MFM008 Jun 2016 #87
Probably because of the 22nd Amendment. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #139
How does the old saying go...? Ah yes. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #168
Not gonna happen (nt) Ino Jun 2016 #65
well, I do believe that she thinks she can win without progressives by bbgrunt Jun 2016 #68
You're a good guy KB. lovemydog Jun 2016 #75
I'm am SICK of hearing that pointing out disastrous policy stance is tearing down a candidate. onecaliberal Jun 2016 #178
Well, no: she needs 51% of Pennsylvanians, Floridians, and Floridians Recursion Jun 2016 #94
hillary doesn't need every sanders supporters....she'll have 85-90% that matter beachbum bob Jun 2016 #97
Both our candidates are pledged to support the nominee. Orsino Jun 2016 #98
And you can believe Hillary on this because she has done it before. Bernie, on the other hand... Jitter65 Jun 2016 #116
That's a weird assertion. Orsino Jun 2016 #121
If she is the nominee, I'll vote for her because she is a woman Android3.14 Jun 2016 #100
I don't know if I want to be in a party composed of such people. Sky Masterson Jun 2016 #102
*WHEN* HRC IS nominated, every Sanders voter will HAVE to get behind her to ensure Trump loses. baldguy Jun 2016 #111
They think she can win without Bernie voters. Vinca Jun 2016 #115
She will need all Democrats. nt arely staircase Jun 2016 #122
I don't see it happening. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #140
Same here.....they napalmed the bridge. yourout Jun 2016 #153
This thread is revisionist history. I've read hundreds of threads that call Hillary a "baby killer" Trust Buster Jun 2016 #146
Most of the scorching seems to be coming from Hillary-haters. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #147
IF?? You mean "when"?? DrDan Jun 2016 #150
Most of them already are behind her Tarc Jun 2016 #152
I saw a post yesterday... Miles Archer Jun 2016 #155
No she won't. Just the reasonable ones... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #156
How do you reason with people openly rooting for an indictment? You don't coddle delusions. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #157
Discounting the Bernie Brigades at DU and REDDIT... brooklynite Jun 2016 #159
Way too late. jeff47 Jun 2016 #174
+1 jwirr Jun 2016 #189
+1 BlindTiresias Jun 2016 #211
I really think this is in the minds of bernie supporters. Everyone wants to unite MariaThinks Jun 2016 #176
How would Sanders have done it after some of his supporters have.... Adrahil Jun 2016 #177
That's not going to happen. Fly by night Jun 2016 #180
Well, now you know how it's felt being a Hillary Clinton supporter on the internet anigbrowl Jun 2016 #187
This! auntpurl Jun 2016 #209
HRC and Bernie JohnGray Jun 2016 #188
The lesson that the DNC should have learned with Nader and the 2000 election intheflow Jun 2016 #190
They will never do that. BlindTiresias Jun 2016 #213
Most will Stuckinthebush Jun 2016 #207
I think there is such a huge chance she will not win. Puglover Jun 2016 #208
Needless to say, Trump will get tens of millions of votes. There are many Marens to be sure. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #214
The first step should be the Berniestans Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #215
I appreciate what you are trying to do. Duval Jun 2016 #217
Well, it's doubtful she will get "every single" Bernie voter book_worm Jun 2016 #218
Watch the news, Ken. MineralMan Jun 2016 #220
"The Seeds... kadaholo Jun 2016 #221
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