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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. As it happens, I do not believe our government
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:27 AM
Jun 2016

of, by, and for the people, who are all equal and endowed with inalienable rights, is broken.

Our government IS under attack by ultraconservatives, funded by hundreds of billionaires and megamillionaires, who do not believe in those principles and have been engaged in a highly organized and funded effort for over 40 years to take it over. Before he became a Supreme Court Justice, Lewis Powell was one of those who drew up careful plans for the eventual takeover of our nation by the right and its transformation from its liberal founding principles into one in which economic, political, and social inequality are built into the system, including rewriting the Bill of Rights.

How do ultraconservatives destroy a government, JCanete? They cause people to not believe in it any more and thus to believe that it must be replaced with something else. THAT is the origin of the very pervasive notion that it is broken and must be replaced with something "better". This scarily wide-spread idea is the result of over 40 years of both lies that the government is failing and of destruction from within government by anti-government officials, who for instance de-fund programs and pass laws so they cannot work, then tell people they can't work and never will. And, of course, through massive monetary corruption.

The fact is, that our government, as governments go, is magnificent. Formed before the Industrial Revolution came to America, it has been a strong, wonderfully stable structure that has nonetheless been able to meet and survive tremendous changes by changing with the people it belongs to and serves. It's faults are our faults, which is why it gets better when we get better and gets worse when we backslide.

After all these years of destruction and backsliding, a lot of repair is needed even while we move ahead again. But it is far from broken. It IS in grave danger, however.

I would be very surprised if the ultraconservatives who formed, funded, and directed the right-wing anti-government Tea Party have not been taking copious notes of Bernie's success in mobilizing an anti-establishment "populist" movement on the left. If they could join both those on the right and those on the left who have been successfully persuaded to believe our government is broken, does not serve the people, and must be rebuilt--starting with getting all the Democrats out of office--they could achieve a majority.

And then they would start "rebuilding," or "revolution," as you might prefer, only in a very different direction those who empowered it imagined.

Not that you would hear anyone explain it that way, of course. It would be wrapped in the highest principles.

Nj stolen, NM stolen, SD maybe stolen, CA stolen, why is ND and MT not stolen if its so easy nt msongs Jun 2016 #1
THERE YOU ARE ... We were waiting for your response over here ----> ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #14
They stole what they needed to. They didn't have the nerve to steal NH & VT. reformist2 Jun 2016 #18
Was Ohio stolen by Hillary? What about Florida and Virginia? Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #33
That is another power the establishment has bestowed upon themselves. NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #22
It is easy. Testimony before Congress established that. merrily Jun 2016 #29
God fucking damn. Just lose. LexVegas Jun 2016 #2
Stop the spamming. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #4
It's what they do. merrily Jun 2016 #30
Amen NurseJackie Jun 2016 #11
I like Bernie TeddyR Jun 2016 #3
Its a catch 22. Say for just a second that there really were forces at work and most people didn't JCanete Jun 2016 #10
JCanete, Hillary won California by nearly 1/2 million votes. Hortensis Jun 2016 #17
The whole system is undemocratic, not just the caucuses. But of course Hillary got more JCanete Jun 2016 #19
As it happens, I do not believe our government Hortensis Jun 2016 #21
No objection to a lot of what you say, and just because I think our government is broken JCanete Jun 2016 #23
No, I don't. But the big threat is from the Republicans. Hortensis Jun 2016 #24
But Clinton entered politics and became wealthy. How do you know who the good guys are? nt JCanete Jun 2016 #25
You NEVER know who the good guys are. randome Jun 2016 #27
Stratospheric levels of wealth are concentrated Hortensis Jun 2016 #34
I never said that only Bernie supporters have an issue with wealth concentration, but if you JCanete Jun 2016 #36
These people are making themselves look ridiculous. How embarrassing. tritsofme Jun 2016 #5
Good gawd, give it a rest. There's no dishonor in finishing with fewer votes. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #6
But the 1 in 77 billion chance of the exit polls being that wrong is interesting: scscholar Jun 2016 #13
Do you think Sanders stole Minnesota? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #16
Those "probabilities" are just as made-up as the "exit poll discrepancies." -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #28
"Painfully amateur Sanders campaign" never printed a voter guide.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #7
I haven't read this yet G_j Jun 2016 #8
There is a lawsuit. Ultimately, a judge will decide. merrily Jun 2016 #32
That doesn't explain the early voting before now that Hillary led by 10 points stevenleser Jun 2016 #9
If NPP is too confusing, pick a party. Problem solved. nt ecstatic Jun 2016 #12
By Palast's logic, my primary vote was stolen too! And I'm an independent in Florida. Native Jun 2016 #15
If you truly believe the democratic party steals every election, why not just immediately leave it? qdouble Jun 2016 #20
I didn't write the article! scscholar Jun 2016 #26
Well, what IS your opinion about the Democratic Party then? MoonRiver Jun 2016 #31
Obviously, I don't. scscholar Jun 2016 #38
This nonsense is so old. Face, Bernie lost. Somebody wins and somebody loses, it isn't soccer tonyt53 Jun 2016 #35
Trump Trolling? realmirage Jun 2016 #37
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