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yardwork

(61,527 posts)
61. As a white person living in the south, I tend to agree with this assessment.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:42 PM
Jun 2016

Here in the south, the struggle for civil rights required survival in a hard, mean, life-threatening environment, and that struggle continues to this day. Black people survived and gained rights by forging very close bonds with one another and trusted allies. Once earned, a place at the table is a sacred trust. Perfection is not expected or demanded. Loyalty is.

Some of Bernie's white supporters never knew this, and others who should know it seem to have forgotten.

You can't waltz into the south and demand black people's vote and expect to get it. You have to be invited to the table, and that only happens after years of loyal, hard work.

The Clintons are imperfect. People get that. It's an imperfect world. But in the south, the new guy in town is going to be greeted with a a fair amount of polite skepticism. Especially if he seems to be just passing through.

You can stop lecturing PoC. They have already overwhelmingly voted for her. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #1
No lecture there. The OP is pointing out something important. senz Jun 2016 #4
For what purpose? To tell PoC that she knows what's best for them more than they do? PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #7
For what purpose? For truth. 840high Jun 2016 #43
How arrogant is it to substitute your judgement for someone elses... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #68
You're doing the same. 840high Jun 2016 #73
Not doing tht at all Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #85
No. That's not True rock Jun 2016 #86
codswallop. The OP is opinion. And I again ask, at this juncture, what is the OP trying to do? PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #87
The post does not address any specific group of people notadmblnd Jun 2016 #107
SMDH rbrnmw Jun 2016 #19
What makes you think her post is only for PoC? n/t Herman4747 Jun 2016 #20
The title? PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #21
White people have no interest in why... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #32
Strawman, no one said ONLY but you uponit7771 Jun 2016 #63
Take a deep look at post #1. Look carefully. Herman4747 Jun 2016 #65
Yeap, no "only" there... thx for playin uponit7771 Jun 2016 #66
No "only" there, because there's only one group mentioned!!! n/t Herman4747 Jun 2016 #93
I think I can decide for myself when I am being lectured. TYVM. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #99
The OP is a POC. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #115
You chose some pretty awesome timing for this post nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #2
No joke. Immediately after the most powerful black man on the planet endorsed her. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #69
She has shown it over and over again ever since she was FLOTUS. senz Jun 2016 #3
You make alot of assertions apcalc Jun 2016 #8
this thread is racist and offensive Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #5
You are inferring that, it is not what the post is saying. What is offensive is trying to render JCanete Jun 2016 #36
...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #74
Creating a wedge issue out of race is a Republican tactic. But the Dem Party is so far to the right GoneFishin Jun 2016 #109
Thoughtcrime! Califonz Jun 2016 #80
This OP is a prime example of how annavictorious Jun 2016 #82
what bigtree Jun 2016 #6
"I am prepared for her to prove me wrong." jzodda Jun 2016 #9
Another flame bait post Andy823 Jun 2016 #10
Oh boy! Why are we still allowing racist threads? leftofcool Jun 2016 #11
What is racist about this thread? People vote against their best interests all the time, across JCanete Jun 2016 #28
Nothing racist. 840high Jun 2016 #75
Just days left MFM008 Jun 2016 #12
Bullshit. Quayblue Jun 2016 #13
I agree, wholeheartedly. Renaissance Man Jun 2016 #14
that's nice. we look forward to hearing from you in 8 years nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #15
"she supported...the 1994 Crime Bill" - the one Sanders voted for? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #18
The 1994 Crime Bill Renaissance Man Jun 2016 #24
So, you're criticizing her for supporting it, but you're ok with Sanders actually voting for it. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #27
Cognitive dissonance. Renaissance Man Jun 2016 #30
Attacking Clinton for supporting a bill that Sanders voted for is the very definition of TwilightZone Jun 2016 #38
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #42
NAILED it. It was so horrible but somehow the person who allegedly voiced support for it is 1000 Number23 Jun 2016 #101
Your creative rationalizations are bemusing. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #55
Sure she was a racist in 2008, but like many other issues, she's "evolved", so, no worries* jack_krass Jun 2016 #22
She evolves constantly. How 840high Jun 2016 #76
I don't know* jack_krass Jun 2016 #89
Thanks for your perfectly stated belief, I agree with you. Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #23
Dolores Huerta sold out? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #31
And "John Lewis was shamefully used." The disrespect from that bunch never ceases to amaze Hekate Jun 2016 #97
Thank you. 840high Jun 2016 #50
Agreed. atomingai Jun 2016 #53
Yeah, I'm thinking about Dr. Jill Stein too. Hey, she's honest, unlike Hillary Herman4747 Jun 2016 #110
"Missy H"? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #16
This screed is trash worthy today workinclasszero Jun 2016 #17
Not sure why you are posting this now. What do you suggest? A vote for Trump? yardwork Jun 2016 #25
Yet again TeacherB87 Jun 2016 #26
Um...maybe have a look at the OP's .sig? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #33
What about it? TeacherB87 Jun 2016 #37
Never mind. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #39
Thanks for caring enough to post initially but then not enough to follow up. TeacherB87 Jun 2016 #51
I thought you were being disingenuous. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #52
You know that being a member of a minority does not mean one cannot athena Jun 2016 #77
Of course. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #78
Then what is your point? athena Jun 2016 #81
Geez...just geez. Spazito Jun 2016 #29
We know, we know ... you hate her SO-O-O much, it...it...it... flames... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #34
"She supports the very reasons race was invented in the first place" nt. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #35
Wut???? PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #40
Maybe they will tell us. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #44
Thanks for pointing that part out. Missed it in the oceans of swill. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #47
Forget it, the OP is rolling... Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #46
I assume gollygee Jun 2016 #70
We've heard variations of this lame argument since South Carolina Tarc Jun 2016 #41
+1, they're doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results uponit7771 Jun 2016 #64
"Who better than Trump to scare people into voting against their own interests?" Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #45
There are good reasons why African Americans are not supporting Sanders Gothmog Jun 2016 #48
As a white person living in the south, I tend to agree with this assessment. yardwork Jun 2016 #61
All that is missing are two words "Stockholm Syndrome" Sheepshank Jun 2016 #49
You nailed it. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #54
The last line of your post JSup Jun 2016 #56
Just out of curiosity - are any of the 15 people who recced this OP People of Color? yardwork Jun 2016 #57
President Obama and the Congressional Black Caucus have HRC's oasis Jun 2016 #58
lolz you guys! obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #59
Figures. I knew immdiately wtf this would be bravenak Jun 2016 #60
is that just a lovely OP rbrnmw Jun 2016 #79
For sure. This one swears bravenak Jun 2016 #88
"I guess tee em number number was busy, so it was your turn." Number23 Jun 2016 #103
This shit was wack! bravenak Jun 2016 #105
... emulatorloo Jun 2016 #118
Sigh, another "Hillary is Satan" post... why do the same thing over and over again and expect a . uponit7771 Jun 2016 #62
July 16th nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #67
Same post...the longer version was hidden...why re-post? nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #71
I respectfully disagree. Beacool Jun 2016 #72
Bull malarkey rock Jun 2016 #83
Bernie Sanders won 1 state... jamese777 Jun 2016 #84
"I am prepared for her to prove me wrong. " Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #90
Are you, by any chance, black? If not, perhaps you should let the members of that demographic ... Hekate Jun 2016 #91
Yes, Rebkeh is black as are others agreeing with her on this thread Arazi Jun 2016 #95
Lol! zappaman Jun 2016 #92
Damn......where is the Zoolander car gif? nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #96
the other thead was deleted I hope this one is too Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #94
Unfortunately, Jamaal510 Jun 2016 #102
Every black poster I see in this thread is like this Number23 Jun 2016 #106
That is craptastic! Especially the "latte liberals" part! You sound just like Newt! Was that what Squinch Jun 2016 #98
You've spent too much time in the Sanders group, I think Number23 Jun 2016 #100
We still doing this? Metric System Jun 2016 #104
I'm With Rebkeh jamese777 Jun 2016 #108
Where exactly does Rebkeh say she's voting for Trump? Herman4747 Jun 2016 #111
Why lecturing black people about their best interest is bad, the shorter version. wildeyed Jun 2016 #112
She's black too. But it seems she does not respect our choices as we do hers. bravenak Jun 2016 #113
Isn't it about a year too late for this? Chitown Kev Jun 2016 #114
Yep. I have no idea why this was even posted. It's been kinda over. bravenak Jun 2016 #116
Ah, I guess I missed that. wildeyed Jun 2016 #117
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