2016 Postmortem

Doctor_J

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18. you authoritarians just don't get it, and never will.

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:49 PM

Jun 2016

sanders does not care about leverage, or getting to speak in prime time at the convention. he believes that the American people are entitled to healthcare, decent wages, a good education, and clean air and water, and that the Democratic Party should fight for them. he also knows that mrs Clinton doesn't believe any of these things. he wants the party to be the progressive powerhouse it was for all those decades, instead of the republicans whipping boys.

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Bernie had alot more leverage a few weeks ago. [View all] DCBob Jun 2016 OP

I agree... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #1

If he keeps saying stuff like that there is no way he gets a speaking spot. DCBob Jun 2016 #2

Nope not a chance jimw81 Jun 2016 #33

He probably could have been veep, in fact he probably still could if he worked it ucrdem Jun 2016 #3

I like your comment "So to Bernie and his idealistic supporters I salute you" DCBob Jun 2016 #5

Yes he was kind of a foil to Trump ucrdem Jun 2016 #8

Third that here too. :) Hortensis Jun 2016 #44

Great comment and true. nt. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #6

He wouldn't gain anything by being vp in her administration. What power would she give him? JudyM Jun 2016 #7

Thanks and likewise! ucrdem Jun 2016 #9

support, not endorsement larkrake Jun 2016 #30

There is no support without endorsement Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #46

Pretty sure Bernie would not want to be VP under Clinton. peace13 Jun 2016 #51

Yes, as many predicted. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #4

That's what I've been saying. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #10

I'm sure that's what Hillary told him earlier this evening when they met azurnoir Jun 2016 #21

She needs him and his supporters. Especially his supporters. kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #24

But here we are being told how insignificant Bernie is azurnoir Jun 2016 #25

Hillarie's, Obama's, Reid's, and Biden's actions and the rest of the parties actions say otherwise. kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #72

So 43 percent of primary voters are irrelevant too? Armstead Jun 2016 #43

No, only a few of them are irrelevant metroins Jun 2016 #57

That's if the DNC doesn't think the long game. NWCorona Jun 2016 #11

Peaking in the sense LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #61

I think that's more or less right. Adrahil Jun 2016 #12

baloney. It is not dems that Hillary needs, it is indys and progressives larkrake Jun 2016 #29

She has them. What she doesn't have is the BOB-ers. randome Jun 2016 #64

Sanders lost much of his leverage when Warren endorsed Clinton Tarc Jun 2016 #13

Sanders does not have much leverage given California and DC Gothmog Jun 2016 #14

Yes be did. He should have struck while the iron was hot. sufrommich Jun 2016 #15

What is striking? Armstead Jun 2016 #35

Hillary Clinton won the goddamned election.Every fucking sufrommich Jun 2016 #55

Clinton felt entitled after 2008...and was rewarded with a key cabinet position Armstead Jun 2016 #56

Bernie metroins Jun 2016 #58

You have no idea if Clinton "bargained for a perch",I see a lot of sufrommich Jun 2016 #59

Bernie IS making it about him and what HE wants. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #60

Bernie doesn't need or want your leverage. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #16

What a surprise. Another nasty Clintonite thread about how they need but don't need progressives. nt w4rma Jun 2016 #17

You are not progressive. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #49

Yes, if only progressives were more like disposable wipes. peace13 Jun 2016 #54

you authoritarians just don't get it, and never will. Doctor_J Jun 2016 #18

Fuckin A, Bubba! TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #20

Wow. Just wow. Beware the thread cleansers. zonkers Jun 2016 #26

Love your response comment Armstead Jun 2016 #36

Authoritarian?? You are the one who sounds like an authoritarian. DCBob Jun 2016 #41

Oh I think he does Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #50

"Mrs. Clinton doesn't believe in any of those things" treestar Jun 2016 #63

Bernie has destroyed his reputation Renew Deal Jun 2016 #19

+1 CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #23

He "destroyed" his reputation the day he challenged the Annointment Armstead Jun 2016 #38

He did what he had to do. peace13 Jun 2016 #52

Then obviously he isn't needed on Hillary's campaign trail azurnoir Jun 2016 #22

There is sound logic to that view. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #27

no, she is not peaking. She peaked the day she entered the race and has been going larkrake Jun 2016 #28

Wanna bet? tirebiter Jun 2016 #31

I trust Bernie to make these decisions for himself. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #32

Luckily how much leverage he has has nothing to do with your personal opinion but highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #34

Clinton finished very strong. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #37

Good thing. How many did she lose in a row, before her strong finish? peace13 Jun 2016 #53

She had a strong start, a strong middle, and a strong finish. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #62

I would have to look it up. Not one hundred percent sure. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #68

They are still looking at CA. peace13 Jun 2016 #69

I understand. I think Clinton will expand here lead. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #70

Good luck to you. : ) peace13 Jun 2016 #71

Yes he should just have slunk away and left 43 percent stranded Armstead Jun 2016 #39

Its basically a team sport and Bernie and his supporters are on the Dem team.. correct?? DCBob Jun 2016 #48

I was thinking that too, yesterday obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #40

He has until Monday before any influence starts to become moot. stevenleser Jun 2016 #42

So easy to sit inside the bubble with that dictum .... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #45

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #47

Agree with everything you said. But Sanders was never much of a politician. randome Jun 2016 #65

Very true workinclasszero Jun 2016 #66

Good point.. DCBob Jun 2016 #67

Stirring up more shit for no reason. No idea why. nt Logical Jun 2016 #73

This is a political discussion board. DCBob Jun 2016 #75

He overplayed his hand Stuckinthebush Jun 2016 #74

Indeed. DCBob Jun 2016 #76