2016 Postmortem

pinebox

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44. Being a civil servant does NOT equal establishment.

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 12:57 PM

Jun 2016

I think you're confused here some.

The Establishment generally denotes a dominant group or elite that holds power or authority in a nation or organization. The Establishment may be a closed social group which selects its own members (as opposed to selection by merit or election) or specific entrenched elite structures, either in government or in specific institutions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Establishment

The establishment is the DNC and the party itself. Sorry but Bernie is an indy and though he may caucus with the Dems, he also holds his own viewpoints. What is it you guys were jawing about recently? How he criticized Obama? Establishment politicians like Hillary don't do that.

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Has hillary earned bernie sanders endorsement? [View all] SwampG8r Jun 2016 OP

ia it the 20th yet? niyad Jun 2016 #1

We're on the countdown. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #32

SwampG8r, no one "hates" what Bernie Hortensis Jun 2016 #54

You must not come here often, huh? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #60

Why go on the HRC group? I don't go on the Sanders group - I don't like getting heartburn. kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #71

I think Hortensis is talking about the discourse on GD-P. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #91

The corollary being just as valid, regardless of the horse you rode in on. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #112

You really should take your blinders off ... you're only seeing what you want to see SFnomad Jun 2016 #2

At this point, it doesn't really matter whether he endorses or not. Squinch Jun 2016 #3

hard to believe but the woman does not need the loner man's endorsement nt msongs Jun 2016 #4

Yes, she does AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #31

Yes, every woman needs the endorsement of a man WhiteTara Jun 2016 #37

How so? lapucelle Jun 2016 #58

that's correct. Bernie is now waging a personal vendetta against the dnc. Nothing to do with MariaThinks Jun 2016 #87

Is it the 20th yet? My full ignore finger is getting tired. redstatebluegirl Jun 2016 #5

Mines not so off you go SwampG8r Jun 2016 #7

Ditto Trajan Jun 2016 #77

You mean like Andy823 Jun 2016 #84

No. Hillary has to change a lot RobertEarl Jun 2016 #8

LOL. When you say she is weak that makes your hero worse than weak redstateblues Jun 2016 #11

+ i kazillion charlyvi Jun 2016 #16

Double digit lead in the polls is weak? demosincebirth Jun 2016 #57

Then why be harping on Bernie? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #88

Are you sure you replied to the right post? I really don't understand what you are saying. demosincebirth Jun 2016 #92

Resolved: HRC is a weak candidate RobertEarl Jun 2016 #94

Your hatred of Hillary overcomes your logic. We don't need you or your fringe group to win. demosincebirth Jun 2016 #95

My hatred? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #97

HRC is not a weak candidate. She walloped Bernie and is ahead of Trump. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #96

Bernie speaks for me RobertEarl Jun 2016 #99

My post is childish? Not even close. YOUR post is childish. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #100

You labeled Bernie as poor sportsman RobertEarl Jun 2016 #101

YOU get this straight: not conceding IS poor sportsmanship. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #103

Now that is just dumb RobertEarl Jun 2016 #104

The longer he waits, the less credibility he will have. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #105

Mine too. Say hello to the other people I've also put on ignore. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #36

Welcome to mine. Amaril Jun 2016 #40

At the end of the primary, the opposing sides within the party come together Tarc Jun 2016 #6

She doesn't need it KingFlorez Jun 2016 #9

Good, then people should quit demanding he do it. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #24

She does not need to "earn" the votes. Evergreen Emerald Jun 2016 #10

Hillary has been in establishment forever RobertEarl Jun 2016 #13

Sanders has been establishment forever Evergreen Emerald Jun 2016 #14

Sanders has done nothing? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #15

+10,000 Some people only see what they want to see. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #23

He voted again and again to support the war Evergreen Emerald Jun 2016 #25

he voted to support the troops, and the senate does not hold the purse strings. please keep up swhisper1 Jun 2016 #49

He was for it before he was against it. redstateblues Jun 2016 #59

Ridiculous post. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #64

this is so wrong RazBerryBeret Jun 2016 #47

raz, it is who they are. litlbilly Jun 2016 #113

Hillarys body of work was aimed at making the world a better place for corporations. She has always swhisper1 Jun 2016 #50

"Always" --going back to working for Marion Wright Edelman's group? Hekate Jun 2016 #76

Bernie has never had a job outside or government WhiteTara Jun 2016 #41

Being a civil servant does NOT equal establishment. pinebox Jun 2016 #44

He's not in an elite group? WhiteTara Jun 2016 #48

chosen on merit, now thats a term not related to Clinton swhisper1 Jun 2016 #56

Said by someone who has no actual clue. Tick tock. Hekate Jun 2016 #79

"Tick tock!" Eveyone drink! pinebox Jun 2016 #85

Pinebox's post was hidden by a Bad Jury Decision. John Poet Jun 2016 #90

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #86

demonize and demean... RazBerryBeret Jun 2016 #66

All politicians need to earn votes AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #33

Sure. She has won the primary elections. If he's a Democrat, then MineralMan Jun 2016 #12

there it is, Rah rah rah for the party again. No self respecting democrat will roll over this time swhisper1 Jun 2016 #45

No and she never will. Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #17

I personally don't believe she has. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #18

Yes, when she won the primary. wildeyed Jun 2016 #19

No, and I wouldn't believe her if she tried. Ino Jun 2016 #20

pit vipers lure you in , then strike swhisper1 Jun 2016 #39

Not just NO, but HELL NO. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #21

She beat him in the DEMOCRATIC primary, so YES. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #22

I don't have personal hatred for Sanders MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #26

The routine bile directed at Nader undercuts your criticism rather nicely. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #107

The burden is completely on Bernie Sanders.... FarPoint Jun 2016 #27

Not a chance Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #28

Guess we'll have to win without you. You are one of the very few "Democrats" who redstateblues Jun 2016 #62

In all the heated, angry exchanges I've here had on DU, I've never told anyone to"go fuck yourself" Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #67

Changed Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #70

Newp. nt nc4bo Jun 2016 #29

Who cares? jamese777 Jun 2016 #30

Results... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #38

No Miles Archer Jun 2016 #34

Can never be " earned laserhaas Jun 2016 #35

If the primaries & Caucuses Had Been Close but they weren't jamese777 Jun 2016 #42

I can't speak for Bernie but she hasn't earned mine. nt Autumn Jun 2016 #43

Hillary hasn't earned my vote. pinebox Jun 2016 #46

While Bernie fans practiced protests for the DNC, millennials for Hillary registered folks to vote riversedge Jun 2016 #51

We Bernie supporters did all of our registering during the primaries, when Hillary was turning w4rma Jun 2016 #108

Absolutely not. 99Forever Jun 2016 #52

She can win with or without Bernie book_worm Jun 2016 #53

I don't see anyone hating. You must run with a very different crowd. Sanders voters won't follow bettyellen Jun 2016 #55

The more you people spew you hatred of HRC, the more support she gets. demosincebirth Jun 2016 #61

Then there is the argument that she is more electable without Sanders' endorsement. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #63

Sanders has made it clear that he will never endorse. lapucelle Jun 2016 #65

Nobody has "hatred for what he represents". It's his (and his supporters) behavior Lil Missy Jun 2016 #68

Who cares? She will win with or without it. She doen't need the 100 or 100k who lunamagica Jun 2016 #69

We won't stay home, we simply won't vote for Hillary peacebird Jun 2016 #72

OK lunamagica Jun 2016 #73

So what? Trump will lose too. NNadir Jun 2016 #74

Never said I would vote Trump. So not my concern peacebird Jun 2016 #75

I couldn't care less who or what you vote for or against. Your vote is irrelevant in the fight... NNadir Jun 2016 #78

Hillarys good friend Donald was a surprise. i don't think Bill expected him to do this well. peacebird Jun 2016 #81

There are votes all over, especially this year! Walk away Jun 2016 #80

Tomorrow, tomorrow MFM008 Jun 2016 #82

Newt Gingrich wants to bring back HUAC. Roger Stone says that Huma Abedin's presence..... Hekate Jun 2016 #83

He would say not, and I would say he has not earned a speaking spot at the convention nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #89

no. she has work to do to achieve that. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #93

Yes, of course. And if Bernie had won, he'd have earned her endorsement. pnwmom Jun 2016 #98

She is the presumptive nominee. She doesn't need to earn his endorsement. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #102

I don't give a flyin' fuck ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #106

Someone alerted on you for swearing: sufrommich Jun 2016 #110

SDS: Sanders Derangement Syndrome Night Watchman Jun 2016 #109

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #111

Nope.id be blue if i did SwampG8r Jun 2016 #114

Has Bernie earned a speaking slot at the convention? Sheepshank Jun 2016 #115