2016 Postmortem

stopbush

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112. Bernie wise? C'mon. Did you read his plans for funding healthcare?

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #108)

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 10:50 AM

Jul 2016

Reagan would have been proud of the fuzzy math.

No, sorry, but Hillary is far wiser than Sanders.

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Sanders is itching for a convention fight [View all] brooklynite Jul 2016 OP

I thought Sanders wanted platform planks. Turns out, he only wants a fight? merrily Jul 2016 #1

He'll be completely shut out, then. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #2

Good luck with that AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #3

I don't see why shutting him out would be difficult. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #8

It would be easy, and stupid AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #10

Meh... most grown ups know, throwing out threats will result in people doing what is necessary to seabeyond Jul 2016 #14

Pure speculation AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #31

Listening to Sanders and taking him at his words, along with his supporters. At what point are we seabeyond Jul 2016 #33

+ a million! eom BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #68

Sanders is one of the few politicians whom you can trust to speak truth to power. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2016 #105

I disagree. I know that is the meme, but I did not find the reality in his campaign. I think, seabeyond Jul 2016 #107

I respect your opinion, but disagree strenuously with your dim view of Bernie. His influence over the party platform speaks to his non-establishment pedigree. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2016 #109

Why would she emulate Sanders when being herself gained 4-million more votes than Sanders? stopbush Jul 2016 #111

This is just one of many oddities. Clinton success thru out the campaign. Historical success. seabeyond Jul 2016 #115

Sanders has not been vetted. I on the other hand, researched Sanders when he first threw his hat in. seabeyond Jul 2016 #114

Perhaps getting shut out is his goal. JaneQPublic Jul 2016 #39

I had heard but not positive, that he already registered as Independent for his senate run. seabeyond Jul 2016 #42

+1 JaneQPublic Jul 2016 #43

Offended here too, but anti-Democrats on both Hortensis Jul 2016 #75

Back in April, Weaver confirmed that Sanders would remain a Democrat for life, post-primaries caquillo Jul 2016 #45

I disagree with Weaver. Pretty certain he won't but what do I know. I'm not even willing to invest seabeyond Jul 2016 #47

He is already set up to run as an Independent in 2018, even has his campaign committee registered... George II Jul 2016 #102

The rules are clear. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #25

There have been a large number of compromises made to platform Gothmog Jul 2016 #59

Will the 1,879 Sanders delegates be shut out as well? David__77 Jul 2016 #51

It would take a vote of 3,177 delegates in favor of suspending the rules in order to allow.... MohRokTah Jul 2016 #53

I never said that Clinton delegates would support Sanders speaking. David__77 Jul 2016 #54

Only one of his delegates will be allowed to speak. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #56

I don't personally think that is what will happen. David__77 Jul 2016 #60

I judge potential future behavior on past actions. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #61

I can understand that. David__77 Jul 2016 #62

IT will definitely be well managed. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #64

Thank you for providing real BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #69

How would they be "shut out"? They'll be at the convention and will be permitted to participate... George II Jul 2016 #101

The platform will be, as always, a compromise. MineralMan Jul 2016 #4

Not sure fight is right word Funtatlaguy Jul 2016 #5

This^^^ thank you! Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #12

Sanders, a non Democrat who is still registered as Independent, running senate as Independent seabeyond Jul 2016 #15

Bingo! tonyt53 Jul 2016 #22

45% say otherwise. GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #26

You're absolutely correct...and the system we have is that the majority wins brooklynite Jul 2016 #27

No, 45% voted for him in the primary elections, but those are over (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #30

35 to 65.... bettyellen Jul 2016 #66

No. The number is not 45%. Much lower. Like 35%, regardless the votes spoke. Also, another point seabeyond Jul 2016 #32

Do not neglect the fact that many of those that voted for Sanders sis so in an open primary. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #37

He can do whatever he wants AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #34

He can do whatever he wants. Calling all of us 'establishment' is suppose seabeyond Jul 2016 #36

He has been in public office for 30 years... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #63

Politico click-bait. Orsino Jul 2016 #48

True, Hillary is the presumptive nominee, but she'd be smart to take Bernie's wise counsel seriously, as it would only benefit her in the general. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2016 #108

Bernie wise? C'mon. Did you read his plans for funding healthcare? stopbush Jul 2016 #112

This would be one. The College plan though, I think is the most clear on the unlevel playing seabeyond Jul 2016 #116

On the face of it, this country should be able to fund free college for all stopbush Jul 2016 #123

You seriously are bringin Reagan into a discussion about Bernie's brilliance?! I read somewhere Bernie's IQ is over 140... Reagan was a blithering idiot! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2016 #124

My IQ is over 140. So what? stopbush Jul 2016 #125

As David Corn's headline today reads: Can Bernie Take Yes For An Answer? CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #6

I don't believe he ever will take yes for an answer MO_Dem Jul 2016 #23

The train has already left the station BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #70

Hilarious. bvf Jul 2016 #73

Look, Sanders mouths off shit about Denocrats or Clinton, people will address. That simple. seabeyond Jul 2016 #83

There's a world of difference bvf Jul 2016 #85

Sanders lost his relevance. More petulance and people do not respect that. And still, insult all seabeyond Jul 2016 #86

Irrelevant enough to keep you posting. Uh huh. I see. bvf Jul 2016 #88

I find Sanders fascinating. Hence, continued conversation. That does not equate to relevance. seabeyond Jul 2016 #89

Fascinating but irrelevant. bvf Jul 2016 #90

Fascinating, hell yes. What privilege and entitlement looks like so very clearly. seabeyond Jul 2016 #91

*Do* go on. bvf Jul 2016 #93

Go on with what? I said what I wanted to say. If you do not see that we have progressed forward seabeyond Jul 2016 #94

The only thing on me bvf Jul 2016 #98

There is no need for any of us to be mean to other members. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #99

You must be lots of fun at parties. lapucelle Jul 2016 #126

Which alternative are you performing here? Cary Jul 2016 #120

I haven't seen many posts bashing Sanders in recent weeks, and the few that have.... George II Jul 2016 #103

He's itching for a spotlight. It seems to be a drug sufrommich Jul 2016 #7

More than anything. You are right WhiteTara Jul 2016 #13

To bathe in the light, lol. Ya. But, he would have actually gotten to do that if he had walked seabeyond Jul 2016 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #17

Does he want his entire platform adopted? Lord Magus Jul 2016 #9

Yup! pandr32 Jul 2016 #55

They started rallying for it a month ago. Why would we pretend otherwise. It behooves Democrats to seabeyond Jul 2016 #11

It really sounds like he's experiencing an end-of-life crisis. randome Jul 2016 #18

It's just a rash. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #19

At this point, it might be the only reasonable answer. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #21

NPR played a few lines form the Biden interview that will be played this weekend. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #20

This is just getting sad now. JaneyVee Jul 2016 #24

No. This was getting sad on the first Super Tuesday. nolawarlock Jul 2016 #79

This appears to be a re-run of 1992... brooklynite Jul 2016 #28

Such a difficult sheepdog. Bad, Bernie, bad. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #29

Wow, who cares? MoonRiver Jul 2016 #35

Many. n/t Jester Messiah Jul 2016 #52

I will be there and will ready to stand up to Sanders' sad demands Gothmog Jul 2016 #38

These are sad demands? "...a $15 minimum wage, opposition to TPP, and a ban on fracking directly MelissaB Jul 2016 #41

The Minimum wage was agreed to last week Gothmog Jul 2016 #57

What's sad is his inability to actively work with the Democratic Party. randome Jul 2016 #58

What's sad is that he feels entitled to have his every demand met even though he lost. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #67

Oi! MelissaB Jul 2016 #71

Who? zappaman Jul 2016 #40

He is irrelevant at this point MaggieD Jul 2016 #44

Couldn't agree more, absolutely spot on... Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #50

Couldn't havesaid it any better! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #78

Yes. Cary Jul 2016 #121

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #46

Whatever...anything to stay on the national stage. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #49

More silliness. nt BootinUp Jul 2016 #65

Hopefully this is being seen by the GOP the way it looks to the average citizen. nt eastwestdem Jul 2016 #72

He's not going to get one mcar Jul 2016 #74

Well, I never. . . floriduck Jul 2016 #76

He should be banned from the convention. Bernie - you lost. You're not the nominee. Now get lost. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #77

It's the spotlight ... NanceGreggs Jul 2016 #80

What the hell is he thinking... RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #81

Correction.... pokerfan Jul 2016 #82

right.... RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #84

Democrats have been fighting Democratic values long before Sanders voice came into play. seabeyond Jul 2016 #87

Nice Freudian slip, there. bvf Jul 2016 #92

When you put it that way... (nt) pokerfan Jul 2016 #95

How you get to reshape the Democratic Party? You win the nomination! CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #96

oh c'mon man oasis Jul 2016 #97

An itch? This works: MineralMan Jul 2016 #100

+10 Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #104

Here is a good article by Noam Chomsky: this is why Bernie is doing what he is YOHABLO Jul 2016 #106

Here is the truth. I do not care why or what we think is the reason, Sanders is doing what he is. seabeyond Jul 2016 #117

Too bad he's not itching to get out there and campaign stopbush Jul 2016 #110

The attitude of the OP and many of the posters here of express hostility to Bernie ONLY helps Trump cloudythescribbler Jul 2016 #113

Over 80% of Sanders supporters have already walked into Clintons camp. You get that, right? seabeyond Jul 2016 #118

as I suggested in the post, I am less than positive about that 80% figure widely bandied about cloudythescribbler Jul 2016 #119

Ya, whatever. You get to believe what you want. seabeyond Jul 2016 #122

Go home and take a nap, Bernie. mwrguy Jul 2016 #127

No fight to be had...he lost beachbumbob Jul 2016 #128