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2016 Postmortem

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ehrnst

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Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:04 AM Jul 2016

Democrats Unite, But What Happened To ‘Medicare For All’? [View all]


"Most health policy analysts — including those who are sympathetic to the idea — say moving from the current U.S. public-private hybrid health system to one fully funded by the government in one step is basically impossible. And that’s making a huge assumption that it could get through Congress.

“To try to do it in one fell swoop would be massively disruptive,” said Paul Starr, a professor at Princeton who was a health policy adviser to President Bill Clinton."

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And it’s not just the private insurance industry (which would effectively be put out of business) that could feel the impact to the bottom line. Parts of the health care industry that lawmakers want to help, like rural hospitals, could inadvertently get hurt, too. Many rural hospitals get paid so little by Medicare that they only survive on higher private insurance payments. Yet under single-payer, those payments would go away and some could not make it financially. “You would not want to wipe out a third of the hospitals in Minnesota by accident,” Pollack said. “And you could,” if payments to hospitals end up too low.

Pollack agreed, and pointed out it’s not just the health care industry that could revolt. When the Affordable Care Act was rolled out in 2013, he said, “the people who couldn’t keep their old plans — a very tiny number as a percent of Americans” were furious. “We saw how difficult that was and how angry the public was when that promise wasn’t kept. Now imagine the major shift we’d have to do to move to a single payer system.”



http://khn.org/news/democrats-unite-but-what-happened-to-medicare-for-all/
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Bull puckies. If you poll people about Medicare for All, most of them want it. merrily Jul 2016 #1
Did you read the part about the consequences of implementation? ehrnst Jul 2016 #4
How did implementation of Medicare go? People have plenty of experience with Medicare, merrily Jul 2016 #5
The implementation of Medicare wasn't for the whole population. ehrnst Jul 2016 #11
Regardless, the implementation went fine and it's in place now. That wheel does not have to be merrily Jul 2016 #12
Regardless? Hardly. ehrnst Jul 2016 #14
And this part? ehrnst Jul 2016 #17
Quoting from my Reply 12: merrily Jul 2016 #20
"If people want to do this, it will be done and done well." ehrnst Jul 2016 #23
Poster, please. What in hell does what most people want have to do with what gets through Congress? merrily Jul 2016 #25
The public option was the part of the ACA that resembled most Medicare for All. ehrnst Jul 2016 #26
One way creon Jul 2016 #2
The shorter path... Chan790 Jul 2016 #6
That method creon Jul 2016 #30
Incrementally, perhaps. And expand children's health care coverage. ehrnst Jul 2016 #9
That creon Jul 2016 #29
Is that what they're going with now...that it's "impossible"? NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #3
Did you read the article? ehrnst Jul 2016 #7
A two thousand page bill for Obamacare--no problemo. merrily Jul 2016 #8
Did you read the article? Medicare for All will take much more than 2000 pages ehrnst Jul 2016 #10
See Replies 5 and 12. Thanks. merrily Jul 2016 #13
See my responses to them. Thanks. ehrnst Jul 2016 #15
No. Arguing is pointless. We're not going to agree, even a little. merrily Jul 2016 #16
You don't agree with the majority of health policy analysts ehrnst Jul 2016 #19
Actually, I don't agree with the negative parts of your article to which you cling. merrily Jul 2016 #21
Which is the opinion of the majority of health care policy analysts ehrnst Jul 2016 #24
Doesn't matter. They should at least be happy that the Hortensis Jul 2016 #31
Yes. We need to be moving toward single-payer models... Orsino Jul 2016 #18
Socialist countries in Europe have universal coverage without single payer. ehrnst Jul 2016 #22
We have multiple single-payer systems here, too. Orsino Jul 2016 #27
If there is a public option and one for people over 55 that takes the heat off Healthcare, applegrove Jul 2016 #28
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