2016 Postmortem

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Agreed rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #1

And forget this same day primary registration crap. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #3

+1 COLGATE4 Jul 2016 #18

+1 RonniePudding Jul 2016 #2

+ A FREAKING BAZILLION! Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #4

Absolutely agree...and hopefully the DNC is paying close attention to what happens eastwestdem Jul 2016 #5

Exactly. All this talk about revising the process. F*ck that. They need to lock this s*it down. timlot Jul 2016 #6

Embarrassing is an understatement lesroseymour Jul 2016 #79

I didn't think a person could be a delegate unless they were registered as a Democrat? still_one Jul 2016 #7

I think they should be a registered Democrat for at least 2 years before they're geek tragedy Jul 2016 #9

I disagree, if only because that would exclude teenage adults. David__77 Jul 2016 #12

teenage delegates are a cute genre of story for convention time but not really geek tragedy Jul 2016 #13

Lots of States have no Party registration at all. We have a closed and clean Primary which Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #14

New York does something like that I believe, though I think it is based on the last election still_one Jul 2016 #32

Well, I guess there will be no delegates from Michigan anymore, John Poet Jul 2016 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jul 2016 #66

They're just pretty unhappy with the content of the email leaks, John Poet Jul 2016 #67

I could not agree more LisaM Jul 2016 #8

If a state doesn't have party registration, how do you close the primary? David__77 Jul 2016 #10

have it be a condition to vote in a primary that you will vote for that party's nominee geek tragedy Jul 2016 #15

I think it's illegal to tell people that their right to vote hinges on some other agreement. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #20

if they can require party registration to vote in a primary geek tragedy Jul 2016 #22

Party registration is different from loyalty oaths, pledges and poll tests. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #23

I live in NY. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #24

NY beat out Texas and Mississipppi for turnout this year, still very low.... Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #34

Oregon does it right, and it has closed primaries. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #37

that is flat out false dsc Jul 2016 #71

I don't imagine that being adopted. David__77 Jul 2016 #21

Yup. I don't think we need to repeat this experiment with an indy candidate. DanTex Jul 2016 #11

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2016 #16

You're damn right. auntpurl Jul 2016 #17

I agree. fun n serious Jul 2016 #19

in favor of closed primaries tkauf0310 Jul 2016 #25

Can't be done. The individual states - not the political parties - stopbush Jul 2016 #26

I know, but this should put the kibosh on efforts on the state geek tragedy Jul 2016 #30

K&R! stonecutter357 Jul 2016 #27

I live in an open primary state and see no problems. B Calm Jul 2016 #28

If parties want to make their own rules for primaries, fine-if they pay the costs of their primaries merrily Jul 2016 #29

Exactly! Primary elections are paid for by tax payers, not political parties! B Calm Jul 2016 #35

Yes. In my state (MA), over half the voters register indie. merrily Jul 2016 #44

With close to 50% of registered voters feeling their party no longer represent them, B Calm Jul 2016 #47

I could be wrong, but I don't think so many in Massachusetts register indie merrily Jul 2016 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author redstatebluegirl Jul 2016 #31

You must be a registered Democrat in order to be a delegate. Tatiana Jul 2016 #33

Well that shot the OP's argument all to hell! B Calm Jul 2016 #36

I guess they have to have even more restrictions on delegate eligibility. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #38

Then tighten up the requirements for being a delegate. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #42

This is left up to the local party officials. It is a sound policy. Tatiana Jul 2016 #46

Point taken. "However, in states where the party may struggle, such as Texas, Indiana, Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #54

Can I get an enormous "AMEN" to that? Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #39

Democracy Lazy Daisy Jul 2016 #40

Open primaries can encourage saboteurs MichMan Jul 2016 #41

This can't be done runaway hero Jul 2016 #43

We do it in New York and it's constitutional nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #45

New York is not fully closed runaway hero Jul 2016 #51

If you're so eager to destroy the Democratic Party, do exactly that. DemocraticWing Jul 2016 #48

There's a beauty in the uniqueness of people. PoliticalMalcontent Jul 2016 #83

SO AGREE!!! SunSeeker Jul 2016 #49

Hear, hear. Hekate Jul 2016 #52

I couldn't agree more. If I was against open primaries (and Caucuses) before, today's events have lunamagica Jul 2016 #53

Hear, here,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Jul 2016 #56

If you're into limiting voting rights liberalnarb Jul 2016 #55

Everybody does not have a right to vote in the primaries Cryptoad Jul 2016 #57

I'm for semi closed primaries. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #58

Not possible. longship Jul 2016 #59

it was more than a few who booed Sanders today. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #60

Or something. longship Jul 2016 #61

Voter oppression? Democratic value? That many Greens, party'd be doing better. And Martin O'Malley? George Eliot Jul 2016 #62

I would be okay with same day registration. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #63

This doesn't exclude saboteurs from going in anyway. mwooldri Jul 2016 #64

Primaries in general seem to be better and more Democratic than caucuses. 4lbs Jul 2016 #68

Eliminating open primaries is pointless because Sivart Jul 2016 #69

It's hard to know what would have been "best" without knowing the outcome. thesquanderer Jul 2016 #70

Delegates are elected at the state conventions Omaha Steve Jul 2016 #72

then they need to restrict delegate privileges to people who've been in the party geek tragedy Jul 2016 #73

Disagree! Pauldg47 Jul 2016 #74

Actually, I'd be happier to get rid of superdeligates and caucuses. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #75

superdelegates have been reduced by 2/3, only elected officials. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #76

I can't stand caucuses. I have a funny feeling I'm going to run the next one.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #84

Wtf greiner3 Jul 2016 #77

no, just letting actual Democrats and allies attend our nomination geek tragedy Jul 2016 #78

Do we know if the bad delegates are from states with open primaries? RAFisher Jul 2016 #80

they're probably from all 50 states. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #81

Then you lose my vote as well as many, many Wisconsinites. AllyCat Jul 2016 #82