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2016 Postmortem

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0rganism

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8. there is an inherent weakness in such schemes
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:00 PM
Sep 2016

now i wouldn't put it above DJT's buddies or ISIS flunkies to try it, but there is a risk in either case, and that risk is exactly what played out today: bombs ineffective, suspect alive and in custody within 72 hours. that Rahani dude is going to get interrogated real good, and the various intelligence and security agencies are going to walk that cat backwards to check on everyone he's had contact with in the last year and everyone his contacts have contacted. every goddam text, email, and phone call log entry in Rahani's 1st and 2nd circles is going to be under intense scrutiny.

for DJT or his campaign, if it comes out that they had anything to do with hiring or inspiring Rahani or any of his contacts (note that the Obama administration's motivation to keep such allegations quiet is... minimal), they're done. Trump may claim he could kill someone on 5th and still turn out his voters, but if it comes out that he's hiring assholes to create random indiscriminate mayhem across America, that's the end. forget the racketeering and conspiracy charges, i think Trump would find out that his support doesn't go that deep. he'd be done. Donezo. 20% ceiling in the election. game over.

ISIS is also taking a risk with such a strategy, albeit with lower stakes for them. if communications come to light that show ISIS acting specifically to promote DJT's campaign, the campaign ads write themselves. 20% ceiling again. Donezo.

with that in mind, October is still going to be something of a nail biter, but 2 things can absolutely seal it for HRC:
1. she has to absolutely smoke him in the debates complete with ashtray, beyond even the formidable abilities of the MSM to mis-characterize a debate in favor of the Republican.
2. president Obama's team cracks down on terrorism, both foreign and domestic, in a big way; this may mean the CIA has to sacrifice some assets, but cashing in those chips could make a huge difference. if HRC can point to Obama's record and say "in the last month, the administration, with the NSA and FBI, has foiled 3 major domestic terror attacks", she wins back some of that confidence on the terror issue.

i suggest you not worry overmuch, no one is aware of this situation more than the president and the presidential campaigns. motivation to engage in such dangerous bullshit is bound to be low, as the odds that a conspirator would fuck up and/or leak make the risk outweigh the reward.

The Donald Bombings? [View all] AmBlue Sep 2016 OP
Creative speculation is that-a-way. They have a suspect in custody. This was an 'act of terror.' nt MADem Sep 2016 #1
Yeah, we do have a conspiracy forum. Been there once...ZOMG! grossproffit Sep 2016 #4
Generally agree, but there's an aspect worth discussing--specifically Trump's rhetoric incitement hlthe2b Sep 2016 #5
This thread suggests there's a nexus. I doubt Trump could find Afghanistan on a map, never mind MADem Sep 2016 #10
ISIS has suggested he is a recruiting tool & thus indirectly "supports" him hlthe2b Sep 2016 #12
Again, the main thesis is a direct monetary nexus between "the orange scumbag" and this terrorist. MADem Sep 2016 #13
We all ask questions re: extent of Trump's authoritarianism, corruption & dictator-like tendencies hlthe2b Sep 2016 #14
This thread postulates a direct financial relationship. That's Creative Speculation. nt MADem Sep 2016 #15
This is a national security election. Many of us have been saying this all along. grossproffit Sep 2016 #2
I'm not going to entertain the thought that he would finance such incidents, but... hlthe2b Sep 2016 #3
This is yet another far fetched theory. cwydro Sep 2016 #6
Because the effect of such actions would elect Hillary Clinton! Coyotl Sep 2016 #7
there is an inherent weakness in such schemes 0rganism Sep 2016 #8
It's definitely possible democrattotheend Sep 2016 #9
The "Khan" in the suspect's name BlueInPhilly Sep 2016 #11
you expressed exactly what I was thinking about all of this. niyad Sep 2016 #16
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