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Motley13

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56. Don't overthink it, there are probably
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 01:23 PM
Oct 2016

plenty of voters that know the trumpster is not fit to be prez & know that McMullin can't win, so will vote for Hillary.

No Renew Deal Oct 2016 #1
Not what I'm saying. If the Polls have Trump ahead of McMullin, and Hillary a bit behind them, would OnDoutside Oct 2016 #5
Trump loses the overall race whether he wins or loses Utah Renew Deal Oct 2016 #6
But the fewer electoral votes leftynyc Oct 2016 #11
No. Getting Hillary to 270 is the goal. Renew Deal Oct 2016 #12
But if it's clear that this goal will be accomplished without Utah Shivaraja Oct 2016 #85
that state will either go to Deplorable or McMillan treestar Oct 2016 #95
Of course it can Renew Deal Oct 2016 #105
Is it the pragmatic vote for Dems in Utah? Shivaraja Oct 2016 #13
Oddly enough, it's not a chess game. It's an election of great consequence. Hekate Oct 2016 #47
You're taking this a bit too literally Shivaraja Oct 2016 #51
Oh, to be mansplained about the election of the first female President!! msanthrope Oct 2016 #66
Nice to see you weigh in Hekate Oct 2016 #71
The msanthrope is kinda fucking done. msanthrope Oct 2016 #79
I must leave this oh so elevated discussion for now ("theoretical" my rosy roseola) Hekate Oct 2016 #88
You have the option of OnDoutside Oct 2016 #100
As you and your partner pointed out, it's an open discussion board.... Hekate Oct 2016 #103
Please desist with the anal conspiracy theories, I brought up a hypothetical situation which is OnDoutside Oct 2016 #116
I don't mind your thread concept...I see their are quite a few "elitists" around here and Cakes488 Oct 2016 #126
OK, so your a chess wiz. How excellent for you... Shivaraja Oct 2016 #74
I don't know leftynyc Oct 2016 #57
NO still_one Oct 2016 #2
best advice: ignore the polls eShirl Oct 2016 #3
NO MoonRiver Oct 2016 #4
Nope (n/t) PJMcK Oct 2016 #7
Hypothetically, I believe that you are over thinking this... Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #8
You'll hear "NO" - but you need to think HARD on that Shivaraja Oct 2016 #9
What would you do? Renew Deal Oct 2016 #14
If it gets thrown to the House because of Utah, then we were fucked anyway. Shivaraja Oct 2016 #18
So you are recommending that Utah Dems vote for a third party candidate Hekate Oct 2016 #22
I'm not advocating for a third party, especially when it involves theocracy Shivaraja Oct 2016 #24
One goes with the other Renew Deal Oct 2016 #26
Because you only normally see Rep v Dem, you're probably not used to a 3rd candidate being OnDoutside Oct 2016 #37
The US does not have a parliamentary system. That is by design. You are very wrong..... Hekate Oct 2016 #54
This has nothing to do with a parliamentary system, but all about a particular situation in a OnDoutside Oct 2016 #65
Since DUers have abandoned all attempts at intelligent discourse this election ... ieoeja Oct 2016 #97
I think there's at least a 4th option Shivaraja Oct 2016 #108
Yep, and I would think they'd be a lot of Utah voters who wouldn't want the stain of Trump OnDoutside Oct 2016 #114
Thanks for the great reply. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #110
Then it won't stop Trump either way. Statistical Oct 2016 #130
I agree with you completely! I had the same idea. bushisanidiot Oct 2016 #135
Is this a serious question??? greatauntoftriplets Oct 2016 #10
People should vote for whoever they want as President. phleshdef Oct 2016 #15
If someone wants to participate in DU, then they had better be voting for Hillary still_one Oct 2016 #29
No shit. People in general, should still vote for whoever they want. phleshdef Oct 2016 #39
The only way Utah's electoral votes matter is if Clinton and Trump both have say 266 electoral votes WhollyHeretic Oct 2016 #16
Where is that scenario even a possibility? JHB Oct 2016 #17
In Utah Shivaraja Oct 2016 #19
Thank you. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #32
Your OP suggests that Democrat not vote for Democrats. FSogol Oct 2016 #20
FFS, get a grip. I'm talking tactics in what would a highly unusual situation. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #31
How old were you in 2000? We have heard this "strategy" before. Pardon the skepticism... Hekate Oct 2016 #38
Too old, thanks very much. Again this is a very particular situation, as I have said elsewhere. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #69
"Dragging up 2000 is overthinking this." Yeah, the Florida recount was a laugh a minute. Hekate Oct 2016 #76
and completely unrelated to the theoretical isssue outlined in the OP Shivaraja Oct 2016 #83
This. Is. Real. Life. Hekate Oct 2016 #86
Great article, requires no commentary from anyone Shivaraja Oct 2016 #90
Her point was to passively, aggressively call you sexist. n/t ieoeja Oct 2016 #99
FFS, Vote for Democrats. FSogol Oct 2016 #96
Yes I'm hoping they'll split the Rep vote allowing Hillary in, but that isn't the question I posed. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #98
What is this, The Gong Show? Hekate Oct 2016 #21
Last time I looked it was a political discussion website. Gasp. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #27
Apparently, even if you advocate for a Clinton presidency Shivaraja Oct 2016 #33
You both signed the TOS for this site. That runs a lot deeper than any supposed group-think. Hekate Oct 2016 #40
And the theoretical question was simple Shivaraja Oct 2016 #61
True, scary stuff ! OnDoutside Oct 2016 #41
Eeks. your age is showing. I loved the Gong Show. zonkers Oct 2016 #52
Probably. Except I disliked the whole premise and didn't watch it. Hekate Oct 2016 #55
Utahns - If the map looks like this on election day, GO VOTE CLINTON DAMN IT! Shivaraja Oct 2016 #23
Well, that presupposes..... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2016 #63
I'm sure that you're correct Shivaraja Oct 2016 #68
McMullin is better than Trump, but Clinton is the obvious choice between the three geek tragedy Oct 2016 #25
But what if the last poll in Utah, on Nov 7 said OnDoutside Oct 2016 #30
why should we care which Republican wins Utah? geek tragedy Oct 2016 #44
Why would you want to give Trump ANY advantage ? It would be great if Hillary could win Utah, but if OnDoutside Oct 2016 #50
If polls say "Alien hovercraft photo beer" Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #28
Ooga booga smooga wooga, eh? Hekate Oct 2016 #42
IF the polls say Emperor Palpatine, then Darth Vader, then Hill... brooklynite Oct 2016 #35
Who is Evan McMullin? vi5 Oct 2016 #36
Well done, you didn't come down in the last shower !!! ;) OnDoutside Oct 2016 #43
Third party basically running against Trump in Mormon country Hekate Oct 2016 #45
...reasons, you know like, reducing Trump's EC votes. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #48
I've updated the thread title to reflect that this is UTAH we are talking about. Clearly this is not OnDoutside Oct 2016 #46
Absolutely not. MineralMan Oct 2016 #49
There are a limited number of characters in a thread title. You should know this by now. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #59
in that case, you can ask whether Democrats should vote for him. MineralMan Oct 2016 #73
typo alert Hekate Oct 2016 #78
Thank you. I've corrected it. MineralMan Oct 2016 #80
No. Let Republicans and independents decide how they vote in Utah. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2016 #53
Don't overthink it, there are probably Motley13 Oct 2016 #56
McMullin can't win the White House, but CAN win Utah Shivaraja Oct 2016 #64
That's exactly the point I was making. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #70
FAIL Coyotl Oct 2016 #58
Democrats not voting for Democrats is not the answer. nt. Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #60
No. Just - no. SeattleVet Oct 2016 #62
If the moon were made out of cheese, would you eat it? Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2016 #67
Is it Blue cheese ? OnDoutside Oct 2016 #72
and what wine will be served? Shivaraja Oct 2016 #77
Latest Utah poll : McMullin 31 Trump 27 Clinton 24 ... this might be a moot point anyway ! OnDoutside Oct 2016 #75
Correction Polly Hennessey Oct 2016 #81
No relayerbob Oct 2016 #82
No. I think Hillary can take Utah True_Blue Oct 2016 #84
I love the optimism! Shivaraja Oct 2016 #87
She's certainly not going to win if all the Dems True_Blue Oct 2016 #91
Hillary is headed for the White House Shivaraja Oct 2016 #93
First off, Utah is already voting. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2016 #89
No. book_worm Oct 2016 #92
YES YES YES !! Can't believe all the no's Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2016 #94
I can't tell the people of Utah saltpoint Oct 2016 #101
Adding a NO! liberal N proud Oct 2016 #102
"Democratic" voters should vote for Clinton TeacherB87 Oct 2016 #104
Noticed that too? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2016 #109
Oh no, not another one. OnDoutside Oct 2016 #111
MineralMan just posted about that too, it's Democratic when used as an adjective ffr Oct 2016 #128
Thank you TeacherB87 Oct 2016 #132
There's no strategic reason to vote for anyone other than Hillary, qdouble Oct 2016 #106
As stated above the EV's for or taken away from or to Trump DO NOT matter in terms of 270 to Hillary Grey Lemercier Oct 2016 #107
No. Dems vote for Dems, none of this alleged "strategic" nonsense. emulatorloo Oct 2016 #112
No. nt William769 Oct 2016 #113
Alert denbot Oct 2016 #115
Ah cop on, Jake Soberoff is on MSNBC right now talking to a couple about this exact situation. A OnDoutside Oct 2016 #117
That's MSNBC, this is DU. denbot Oct 2016 #118
Yeah, please explain it to me, I'll get the popcorn ! OnDoutside Oct 2016 #119
What a stupid ass idea bravenak Oct 2016 #120
That would be not smart. LisaL Oct 2016 #122
I would still vote democrat Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2016 #125
Little Perturbed on This Discussion kurt_cagle Oct 2016 #133
Yes, absolutely. I thought the same thing. Hillary far outside the margin of error but McMullen is bushisanidiot Oct 2016 #134
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