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Response to Ilsa (Original post)

Sun Nov 6, 2016, 08:58 PM

4. The one line that jumped out at me was...

"...people are not operating on the same set of facts..." (liberal paraphrase).

And that is what I've seen in this horrible election. When you challenge someone about considering voting for Trump you are immediately told "...Well, Hillary is worse." But the only thing they have is the so-called email scandal. I would bet that most of them would be hard pressed to explain why that not handling emails properly is worse than all of the things that have come out of Trumps mouth or that have been actually recorded.

The right wing (Fox news, CNN, even MSNBC and many, many other sources) have managed to convict Hillary without a trial. She is considered dishonest, guilty of the deaths in Benghazi, culpable for Iraq and the chaos that has developed in the Middle East--not to mention guilty of having multiple people murdered (Vince Foster being just one). Charges have been leveled and so many of our fellow citizens have, in their hearts, convicted her. It is amazing.

She is the most accused and most investigated person in America. Many of these accusations were made by organizations and people funded by the Scaife family who are a concrete example of the old saying that idle hands are the devil's playground.

Our fellow citizens accept as facts what they read and hear on the internet and television. They are uncritical and will quickly bond to the "facts" they find attractive and that reinforce their prejudices and preconceptions. Once their world view is set it resembles concrete and there is nothing you can say to dissuade them.

I asked a couple of Trump supporters during the primaries to give me one example of one coherent Trump policy that could actually be implemented. I never received an answer.

I stopped talking to Trump supporters after that. It reminded me of trying to teach a pig to sing. It pisses off both you and the pig and in the end the pig still can't sing.

Somewhere around 40% of the voting populace are going to loath and despise the next President of the United States. There will be no honeymoon.

I'm glad that Luntz is disturbed by what he is witnessing. But I can't forget that his expertise with language has allowed the Republicans to sell policies and positions that have led us to where we are today.

I did find the piece very interesting.

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