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Ultra progressives might be a minor factor but economically spooked white moderates lost it for us LonePirate Nov 2016 #1
1000 LiberalLovinLug Nov 2016 #58
"Ultra Progressives"? jalan48 Nov 2016 #2
They mean those silly people who think that the New Deal was a wonderful idea n/t eridani Nov 2016 #114
Those are people who never vote Democratic, ever. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #3
We having been saying that their's was a vote for Trump CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #4
Gary Johnson actually hurt us a lot worse. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #5
To think I cheered his candidacy (especially with his running mate basically endorsing Hillary) forjusticethunders Nov 2016 #21
More like young white dudes who don't want the government geek tragedy Nov 2016 #22
Actually is about young white dudes who are clueless CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #36
we're both right nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #37
We'd still have lost if we'd carried Michigan. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #10
Obviously you didn't read the entire article CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #11
"Unwelcome" ? Were they THAT childish and egocentric? bettyellen Nov 2016 #16
I'm afraid that they were CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #17
It was all about them mcar Nov 2016 #23
I feel so much better now AmericanMan1958 Nov 2016 #41
And this forum is full of people trying to convince people the TPP was #1 issue... bettyellen Nov 2016 #47
Well I am not much into NAFTA AmericanMan1958 Nov 2016 #55
You're absolutely right! bettyellen Nov 2016 #56
Actually, no, they weren't. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #6
Eichenwald says yes BainsBane Nov 2016 #8
1 Thanks for posting this. grossproffit Nov 2016 #13
You are wrong! CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #14
300,000 people in Wisconsin didn't have proper/strict ID nashville_brook Nov 2016 #7
Really, where can I find that in a believable format? CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #18
Ari Berman covers voter suppression and Crosscheck purge nashville_brook Nov 2016 #19
Thanks CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #25
You mean Vichy Progressives? BainsBane Nov 2016 #9
At the end of the day, Clinton is the reason Nevernose Nov 2016 #12
The election was what it was CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #15
I would actually blame the Republicans. They elected him in the primary. nashville_brook Nov 2016 #20
Exactly. Else You Are Mad Nov 2016 #27
Thank you! nt redwitch Nov 2016 #91
You mean the whine-y emoprogs like Susan Sarandon and Nina Turner and the ones who ... NurseJackie Nov 2016 #24
Well.. Else You Are Mad Nov 2016 #28
The results would have been worse had she chased after fringe voters... NurseJackie Nov 2016 #29
I wasn't talking about fringe voters. Else You Are Mad Nov 2016 #31
She wasn't willing to LIE to get their vote. NurseJackie Nov 2016 #72
So, then, why did they vote for Obama...? Else You Are Mad Nov 2016 #74
That's a very simplistic "analysis" there... this isn't 2008. NurseJackie Nov 2016 #76
It is more complex than you think. Else You Are Mad Nov 2016 #81
Critiques ... HA! Good one! NurseJackie Nov 2016 #93
Ok, but that exemplifies the problem. Else You Are Mad Nov 2016 #95
"Legitimate concerns" HA! There you go again! NurseJackie Nov 2016 #96
Thanks for proving my point. Else You Are Mad Nov 2016 #98
You weren't making a point. It's just more of the some old Hillary-Hate (tm)... NurseJackie Nov 2016 #99
Except... Else You Are Mad Nov 2016 #100
Oh brother! More of the same. Nobody cares. It's a sleep-noise machine shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh NurseJackie Nov 2016 #102
Think of this.... CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #111
Yep, that's them CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #30
The Stein voters in FL as well mcar Nov 2016 #35
I thought I had looked a Florida and ... CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #39
I did last week mcar Nov 2016 #43
Hillary is the Reason Hillary lost. NT hueymahl Nov 2016 #60
Nope. NurseJackie Nov 2016 #62
Yep hueymahl Nov 2016 #63
Nope. She was a brilliant candidate. NurseJackie Nov 2016 #65
Apparently a lot of voters (and me) disagree hueymahl Nov 2016 #66
She got more votes than Trump (and Bernie). NurseJackie Nov 2016 #67
Yes, I acknowledged that earlier. She also managed to lose Michigan and Penn. through neglect hueymahl Nov 2016 #69
Now you're just being contrary for its own sake and ignoring the Comey factor. NurseJackie Nov 2016 #71
I'm sorry, which "guys" are you lumping me in with? hueymahl Nov 2016 #73
Except for the majority who disagrees with you. bettyellen Nov 2016 #121
Yeah, brilliant. So brilliant, she knew she need not bother BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #77
You'll have to ask her about that. I'm sure that such decisions are not made lightly. NurseJackie Nov 2016 #79
In large part, yes Duckhunter935 Nov 2016 #113
Nina Turner!!!!!! Auntie Bush Nov 2016 #116
She's loud. Never stops for a breath. Talks too quickly. It's truly distracting. NurseJackie Nov 2016 #133
What is a Ultra Progressive? Someone who despises unfare trade deals B Calm Nov 2016 #26
No - concern about trade deals is not actually a progressive issue CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #33
Using that logic, the right to own a gun without restrictions is a liberal idea. B Calm Nov 2016 #57
If you are smart enough to realize that globalization was going to happen anyway CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #84
As a victim of NAFTA, I find your words insulting. My old job is still be done, B Calm Nov 2016 #87
Trade deals had little to do with your job moving to Mexico CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #94
So if you are not a college educated career man situated on either the east or west coast, B Calm Nov 2016 #97
It is what it is CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #105
And Free Trade is unfare to the working class. Where will the working class B Calm Nov 2016 #117
Any why are no candidates pushing for huge tariffs? Follow the thought to it s bettyellen Nov 2016 #122
If Hillary would of pushed for huge tariffs, she would be president elect. B Calm Nov 2016 #126
Wow that theory is interesting since no one pushed for tarrifs specifically ... bettyellen Nov 2016 #127
Trump won and Hillary lost. Trump won by saying it's time to renegotiate NAFTA. B Calm Nov 2016 #129
LOL.... yeah the polling and headlines about NAFTA dominated.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #132
Trumps message was loud enough in the rust belt. B Calm Nov 2016 #134
Crikey. "Nothing-But-The-Best-For-The Oppressed". . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2016 #78
No get the red out Nov 2016 #32
I disagree CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #34
Feh kenfrequed Nov 2016 #48
So?!?!?! CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #83
You have no numbers kenfrequed Nov 2016 #86
Hillary would have won Michigan and Wisconsin CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #108
The Stein numbers in Pennsylvania don't make up the Trump margin, BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #64
Really, in a state with the population of Pennsylvania CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #68
I was only discussing Stein votes here, not sitouts. BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #75
I'm not talking about people who didn't vote because the didn't care,.,... CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #85
No. McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #38
I love it when some replies to a post with one word reply "No" with...... CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #40
I'm an "ultra progressive" and I voted for Hillary budkin Nov 2016 #42
You are obviously a rational ultra progressive CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #44
NO 0rganism Nov 2016 #45
Exactly kenfrequed Nov 2016 #50
I know a few people who voted Green because they hated both candidates.... TrekLuver Nov 2016 #46
I knew some people who bought huge lies and you'd show them the facts and they'd pull out another BS bettyellen Nov 2016 #49
"Ultra progressives" didn't nominate Hillary Clinton. DirkGently Nov 2016 #51
Your framing is flawed... sfwriter Nov 2016 #52
Hillary had been bashed by fox and the GOP The_Casual_Observer Nov 2016 #53
You left out the groups that left the ballot blank for president B Calm Nov 2016 #54
That's great so the Repub's are strong and unified and now the Dem's are going to be TrekLuver Nov 2016 #59
Can we agree on new progressive leadership, open primaries to B Calm Nov 2016 #61
No we can't because those who think like you do are not in the majority in this party. CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #89
Then the party is doomed without the left wing having a say. The B Calm Nov 2016 #90
Nope - it's a simple decision CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #107
Sorry for the Democratic party you feel that way. B Calm Nov 2016 #115
Most of us don't make decisions based emotions CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #118
Leave 49% of the party with no say and their emotions will prevent the party from winning B Calm Nov 2016 #119
The far left consist of 10% to 15% of the electorate CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #120
Slightly more than 1/3 of Dems, not 49%. Sanders had the GOP crossing over as well as bettyellen Nov 2016 #124
Open primaries? Hell no. bettyellen Nov 2016 #123
Stay with it's my private party and it guarantees zero growth. B Calm Nov 2016 #125
Yep. Now they are out there protesting. All they ... asuhornets Nov 2016 #70
The protesters are ones who voted for her. B Calm Nov 2016 #88
Only people I blame voted for Trump Generator Nov 2016 #80
No. EVERYONE needs facts. elleng Nov 2016 #82
No of that changes the fact that... CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #101
No, again. 'Understanding Trump,' by George Lakoff elleng Nov 2016 #92
The Ultras Are Just Like Their Tea Publican Counterparts Vogon_Glory Nov 2016 #103
For those who wants complain about progressive ideas not getting passed by Trump Thinkingabout Nov 2016 #104
Nope, voter suppression was Duckhunter935 Nov 2016 #106
Okay, I'll compromise... CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #109
Yep Duckhunter935 Nov 2016 #110
Deal! CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #112
Alt-Left Is A More Accurate Term otohara Nov 2016 #128
Where does it end here blaming Bernie Sanders for Hillary's loss INdemo Nov 2016 #130
Well put! 1 B Calm Nov 2016 #131
What kind of Democrat are you? CajunBlazer Nov 2016 #135
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