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2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

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2. Feingold lost because of the massive number of negative ads run against him.

Reply to JI7 (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:17 AM

Nov 2016

And also because Johnson, the incumbent, tied himself heavily to Trump even while opposing him on that one issue.

Look, we all agree that Trump appealed to hate, but we can't ever increase our vote share in future elections by pretending bigotry the only issue. Putting the role bigotry first means opposing any progressive changes in our program on anything else.

It isn't either/or. We don't have to backburner the anti-oppression fight OR backburner economic justice. We can fight for both at the same time.

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Why the fixation with trying to prove trade didn't matter? [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2016 OP

because it's usually used to avoid the real reason people voted the way they did JI7 Nov 2016 #1

Feingold lost because of the massive number of negative ads run against him. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #2

but it was the issue when they support someone like Trump and a free trade candidate who aligns with JI7 Nov 2016 #3

You can't assume it's universal among those voters on that. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #4

nothing is 100 percent . but it's a much bigger part of it than anything else JI7 Nov 2016 #5

"we all agree that Trump appealed to hate". Much it directed at Mexicans and NAFTA. Nobody pampango Nov 2016 #6

Wrong. You are thirty years too late to the party. n/t duffyduff Nov 2016 #18

Cause that would mean acknowledging we nominated the wrong candidate. nt LostOne4Ever Nov 2016 #7

Because manufacturing jobs are never coming back. It's a fantasy to believe otherwise. randome Nov 2016 #8

Jobs must come back or this country is over and they can come back. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #11

It's the Information Age. The jobs are out there for anyone in IT and mobile. randome Nov 2016 #14

That is untrue. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #15

Thank you! And coal jobs are not coming back either... it's a new world. NurseJackie Nov 2016 #12

And that should ALSO have been done. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #20

What's with 4/5 OPs about this? bettyellen Nov 2016 #9

I think trade did matter personally Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #10

"Fixation" ... HA! That cracks me up! NurseJackie Nov 2016 #13

I am not to blame for the defeat. And the Sanders supporters did nothing to deserve your hatred. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #21

Every class is brought up they need to accuse others of been racist. Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #16

Why should I care about the aggrieved white dudes who wouldn't have voted Dem anyway? duffyduff Nov 2016 #17

If you think that trade deals are the reasons why the factories, then you're mis-informed. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #19