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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Without Comey's interference we win. I think that fact is more important than any other. [View all]andym
(5,441 posts)19. Comey's last minute interference tipped the election
I think everyone was watching the polls tighten with trepidation the last two weeks, but the polls didn't completely capture the last minute movement. But there is another factor that you are not taking into account: Trump was a terrible candidate. Perhaps the worst GOP candidate ever. That needs to be factored in, as a GOP candidate without the warts would have likely done much better than Trump did, especially in the Rust Belt, if they were promising "change".
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Without Comey's interference we win. I think that fact is more important than any other. [View all]
stevenleser
Nov 2016
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Voter suppression and James Comey made the difference. Other things could've been better, but...
SharonAnn
Nov 2016
#33
That is a secondary factor, IMHO, because even with that she was leading by a lot pre-Comey.
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#8
I agree with you, media came to HRC a week before election like hounds... they could have
MyNameIsKhan
Nov 2016
#9
Comey had EVERYTHING to do with her positive momentum coming to a crashing halt.
Lil Missy
Nov 2016
#10
Absolutely. It affected some of my "independent" minded friends. They were going to support H, but
SharonAnn
Nov 2016
#34
That is only true if you ignore where Hillary lost and how they wanted change. nt
LostOne4Ever
Nov 2016
#12
She was leading BIG and in the middle of an upswing in all those places post Comey as well
LostOne4Ever
Nov 2016
#47
Why would you change something that works and would have won absent cheating?
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#26
Yep, Guiliani's errand boy should not get to just shrink back into the shadows. nt
prayin4rain
Nov 2016
#15
I think you're right, but I also think people like Sen. Warren are right when they say
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2016
#17
Not forgetting that he won the GOP primary-- he would have had more problems against the GOP A team
andym
Nov 2016
#48
That Ryan didn't help Romney much means little, often VP candidates dont help much in the GE
andym
Nov 2016
#54
Nope, the interference by the FBI director is an unprecedented issue for a Presidential election.
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#40
Nope. I like you, Steve, but you (and her fans here) are simply denying reality.
closeupready
Nov 2016
#55
And with all of what you write she was up 9 points, way out of the margin of error.
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#66
A lead so fragile is no lead at all. Mile wide and inch deep, and all that.
closeupready
Nov 2016
#67
As it always is or at least should be. We don't worship our politicos and an investigation or threat
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#68
And it was the last grand Republican smear-from which she could not recover from.
riversedge
Nov 2016
#28
Nope, that is just trying to justify your position, not actual analysis. nt
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#41
Sure, and in a dictatorship 100% of the votes is why a dictator wins. It doesnt tell the story.
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#43
Yes, and Poland is in Eastern Europe. I can list facts that don't pertain to the discussion too. nt
stevenleser
Nov 2016
#59
She didn't run one ad (that I know of) addressing jobs. Not one ad talking about Obama's
KittyWampus
Nov 2016
#46