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superb article, really lays out a comprehensive case Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #1
Excellent! Every word of it describes how I feel about 3rd Party voters and those who stayed home Lil Missy Nov 2016 #2
Didn't the "start your own 3rd part and get out of ours" nonsense really alienate people Feeling the Bern Nov 2016 #10
In response to Berners who stated the "lock her up" crap- yes. They have to go. bettyellen Nov 2016 #25
They were never Democrats anyway mcar Nov 2016 #32
I had friends who were former Dems and Berners, ended up supporting her but bettyellen Nov 2016 #34
I will never understand the hatred mcar Nov 2016 #35
First of all, drop the pretense that I was talking to you/about you personally. Lil Missy Nov 2016 #42
I voted for Clinton. Prozac. . .good thing to take. Feeling the Bern Nov 2016 #47
As a Bernie website would be good for you ... Lil Missy Nov 2016 #61
Eichenwald demolishes a key myth: that Bernie would have done better than Hillary. pnwmom Nov 2016 #3
And no restrictions on abortion. Dumb platform. bettyellen Nov 2016 #26
I urge everyone to read this article in it's entirety. NBachers Nov 2016 #4
I read it the other day and posted it elsewhere. sheshe2 Nov 2016 #5
Yes - I'd been thinking of you in the off days, and looking forward to getting back together. NBachers Nov 2016 #7
I had some trouble coming back. sheshe2 Nov 2016 #9
Yeah, I kept trying & trying, but never got the "Reset my Password" email. I had to contact Earl too NBachers Nov 2016 #17
Me,too Polly Hennessey Nov 2016 #38
Same email glitch. Got immediate response from the crew Guilded Lilly Nov 2016 #51
Thanks for this Hekate. sheshe2 Nov 2016 #6
One can post other articles arguing the opposite. LostOne4Ever Nov 2016 #8
You didn't read the article? bettyellen Nov 2016 #27
I did. I rejected its claims. Nt LostOne4Ever Nov 2016 #28
You didn't explain why Bernie would have done any better in the general, pnwmom Nov 2016 #85
A poll that doesn't take into account mcar Nov 2016 #33
Apparently polls that take all that into account aren't very accurate either. Nt LostOne4Ever Nov 2016 #36
Another reason to ignore this particular poll mcar Nov 2016 #37
Blaming that sliver of Green voters- and there's always a sliver- isn't gonna work this time. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #11
The third party vote was greater in every key state she lost BainsBane Nov 2016 #12
I'm not saying they didn't. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #13
I don't think she assumed they belong to her BainsBane Nov 2016 #14
Absolutely. The polls were so far off, I've never seen anything like it. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #16
Well she won't be a candidate again BainsBane Nov 2016 #18
I don't think it's simple, at all. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #19
I don't know. I knew a lot of Berners that ended up voting for her but we're spreading misconception bettyellen Nov 2016 #30
The fact that Donna Brazile gave Hillary a debate question in advance... probably didn't help. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #66
It was way before that- they salivated over Guccifer and Wikileaks and all sorts of stupid shit.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #80
the tone of his campaign may have been more in tune with the mood of the electorate, than hers. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #82
They don't want to take responsibility for running a flaw candidate at the worse time. Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #40
New Pre-Election Poll Suggests Bernie Sanders Could Have Trounced Donald Trump Wilms Nov 2016 #15
Nope. DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #20
Yep Lunabell Nov 2016 #21
Really? DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #22
yep really Lunabell Nov 2016 #24
oh puhleeze DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #48
I didn't say that. Lunabell Nov 2016 #56
nope. He didn't have her bagage. He was trusted she was not! Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #41
Hillary won the popular vote and they're still counting. Polls had Hillary winning too. grossproffit Nov 2016 #23
How many voters left blank the two top presidential candidates B Calm Nov 2016 #39
Your last sentence is not true. See the Cook Political Report website. More people voted in 2016 spooky3 Nov 2016 #54
After a run that never happened? You can't ask someone who didn't see them run what they'd do after bettyellen Nov 2016 #29
Oh bullshit. He was barely vetted in the first place and would have fallen apert like a cheap suit Lil Missy Nov 2016 #43
I read it. Wilms Nov 2016 #44
You didn't bother to read the article, did you? athena Nov 2016 #64
I read it. Wilms Nov 2016 #67
He lost the primary. athena Nov 2016 #68
Are we to go into the particulars? Wilms Nov 2016 #70
You've got to be kidding. athena Nov 2016 #71
Well any perceived or real negative could be hauled out as a reason for the loss. Wilms Nov 2016 #72
She is unpopular because she is a woman. athena Nov 2016 #73
Or... Wilms Nov 2016 #74
None of those things would have carried any weight had Hillary been male. athena Nov 2016 #75
To you, athena. Wilms Nov 2016 #76
Excellent article mcar Nov 2016 #31
This is why people who that GOPr voters would lay down and vote for Bernie... MrScorpio Nov 2016 #45
Mind boggling indeed Hekate Nov 2016 #46
you're being too kind DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #49
Same here Hekate Nov 2016 #50
A thousand recs. nt JTFrog Nov 2016 #52
'She didnt earn my vote', JTFrog Nov 2016 #53
Myth #1: It was everybody's fault but Hillary's. DirkGently Nov 2016 #55
So why did she WIN by a million plus votes? Those were cast by real people everywhere. Hekate Nov 2016 #57
She didn't "win." She was destroyed. DirkGently Nov 2016 #58
So why aren't our Sanders friends revolting against that? Hekate Nov 2016 #59
Because it's more realistic to try actually winning? DirkGently Nov 2016 #60
Uh huh Hekate Nov 2016 #62
Snappy! DirkGently Nov 2016 #63
getting rid of the Electoral College would require a constitutional amendment. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #65
I'm aware of that. But if Bernie thought he could become POTUS, why not this? Hekate Nov 2016 #69
or we could continue to whang on Bernie Sanders, because reasons. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #77
or we could continue to whang on Hillary, because reasons Hekate Nov 2016 #78
I agree. But if people want to reflexively blame this fuckup on "berniebros" or some shit Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #84
But there is an option to work towards... Beartracks Nov 2016 #86
true. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #87
The article makes the valid point anamnua Nov 2016 #79
other people have noted that Hillary's negatives were already baked in with a large segment of Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #81
The Clinton Campaign Was Undone By Its Own Neglect And A Touch Of Arrogance, Staffers Say Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #83
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