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stevenleser

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43. Sure, and in a dictatorship 100% of the votes is why a dictator wins. It doesnt tell the story.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 08:08 PM
Nov 2016

But you knew that.

I think we do need to deal with issues at the local level. LisaM Nov 2016 #1
Without massive voter disenfranchisement, we win. ecstatic Nov 2016 #2
yes. barbtries Nov 2016 #20
Cheaters win. Coyotl Nov 2016 #22
Voter suppression and James Comey made the difference. Other things could've been better, but... SharonAnn Nov 2016 #33
We won the popular vote regardless. duffyduff Nov 2016 #57
This... ThirdEye Nov 2016 #58
Correct Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 #3
In my opinion teach1st Nov 2016 #4
I agree. She had momentum and was going to win. boston bean Nov 2016 #5
Correct. sheshe2 Nov 2016 #6
Wrong. Comey had little to do with this. duffyduff Nov 2016 #7
That is a secondary factor, IMHO, because even with that she was leading by a lot pre-Comey. stevenleser Nov 2016 #8
In what poll(s) was she leading by a lot pre-Comey? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #70
I agree with you, media came to HRC a week before election like hounds... they could have MyNameIsKhan Nov 2016 #9
Comey had EVERYTHING to do with her positive momentum coming to a crashing halt. Lil Missy Nov 2016 #10
Yes, I don't see how anyone could come to another conclusion. nt stevenleser Nov 2016 #25
Absolutely. It affected some of my "independent" minded friends. They were going to support H, but SharonAnn Nov 2016 #34
the emails created the narrative for the media to jump on her Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #36
I'd say so. ucrdem Nov 2016 #11
That is only true if you ignore where Hillary lost and how they wanted change. nt LostOne4Ever Nov 2016 #12
Nope, she was leading big in all of those places pre-Comey as well. nt stevenleser Nov 2016 #38
She was leading BIG and in the middle of an upswing in all those places post Comey as well LostOne4Ever Nov 2016 #47
HRC was already week in the rust belt pstokely Nov 2016 #13
See Comey and voter Suppression. lather, rinse, repeat. SharonAnn Nov 2016 #35
Why would you want us to maintain the status quo, though? Ken Burch Nov 2016 #14
Why would you change something that works and would have won absent cheating? stevenleser Nov 2016 #26
Yep, Guiliani's errand boy should not get to just shrink back into the shadows. nt prayin4rain Nov 2016 #15
It was a few things DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #16
Absolutely NastyRiffraff Nov 2016 #30
Agree with all of those, but she also made some mistakes democrattotheend Nov 2016 #75
I think you're right, but I also think people like Sen. Warren are right when they say Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #17
I completely agree. Sorceress Nov 2016 #18
Comey's last minute interference tipped the election andym Nov 2016 #19
Are you forgetting that he beat out 14 other Republicans spooky3 Nov 2016 #44
Not forgetting that he won the GOP primary-- he would have had more problems against the GOP A team andym Nov 2016 #48
Totally disagree. Both of them have considerable spooky3 Nov 2016 #49
That Ryan didn't help Romney much means little, often VP candidates dont help much in the GE andym Nov 2016 #54
Completely disagree. closeupready Nov 2016 #21
Nope, the interference by the FBI director is an unprecedented issue for a Presidential election. stevenleser Nov 2016 #40
Nope. I like you, Steve, but you (and her fans here) are simply denying reality. closeupready Nov 2016 #55
And with all of what you write she was up 9 points, way out of the margin of error. stevenleser Nov 2016 #66
A lead so fragile is no lead at all. Mile wide and inch deep, and all that. closeupready Nov 2016 #67
As it always is or at least should be. We don't worship our politicos and an investigation or threat stevenleser Nov 2016 #68
The FBI interference would never have been possible BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #71
The Bengazi/e-mail witch hunt was GOP manufactured bullshit from oasis Nov 2016 #72
Nope, the investigation was already finished and the likelihood of getting stevenleser Nov 2016 #76
The real key would be to have been smart enough BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #77
I disagree with that democrattotheend Nov 2016 #73
There are many reasons for this loss....and this was one of them. TrekLuver Nov 2016 #23
Yes, it was all about who got the last great smear in. yallerdawg Nov 2016 #24
And it was the last grand Republican smear-from which she could not recover from. riversedge Nov 2016 #28
So let's do something about it cilla4progress Nov 2016 #27
It will not be answered. mainstreetonce Nov 2016 #29
Depending on your definition of "proven" sure it can stevenleser Nov 2016 #31
I think what it/he did do was give too many people who jmg257 Nov 2016 #32
I agree, but will anything be done about it now???? beaglelover Nov 2016 #37
We lost because our candidate didn't command enough votes. DirkGently Nov 2016 #39
Nope, that is just trying to justify your position, not actual analysis. nt stevenleser Nov 2016 #41
"Not enough votes" is actually why we lost. DirkGently Nov 2016 #42
Sure, and in a dictatorship 100% of the votes is why a dictator wins. It doesnt tell the story. stevenleser Nov 2016 #43
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Yes, and Poland is in Eastern Europe. I can list facts that don't pertain to the discussion too. nt stevenleser Nov 2016 #59
This kind of discourse belongs on JPR, not DU. You should stay over there. stevenleser Nov 2016 #60
Those ugly names were yours, Steven. DirkGently Nov 2016 #61
I'm talking about YOUR discourse. It belongs on JPR not here nt stevenleser Nov 2016 #63
hrm. you want to edit this? nashville_brook Nov 2016 #62
Nope. Why would I? Nt stevenleser Nov 2016 #64
I think she would have won in 2008 democrattotheend Nov 2016 #74
She didn't run one ad (that I know of) addressing jobs. Not one ad talking about Obama's KittyWampus Nov 2016 #46
The only Hill ad I ever saw on TV was about jobs. ucrdem Nov 2016 #52
Excellent points Kitty. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #53
Nope, see ucrdem's post above. Nt stevenleser Nov 2016 #65
I saw PLENTY of ads running DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #69
James "Flakey Jim" Comey was fully aware of the impact his interference oasis Nov 2016 #50
Your assumptions do not seem to take into account the fact that the GOP is: guillaumeb Nov 2016 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author duffyduff Nov 2016 #56
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