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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Switch Jill Stein votes to Clinton, and just half of Gary Johnson votes, and here's what you get: [View all]LP2K12
(885 posts)1. While I agree with you...
This trend wont change. Especially because while the numbers didn't support recognition federally, the third-party candidates made ground in certain states.
For example, Michigan. It's been all over the news that because Johnson and the Libertarian party pulled in enough votes to meet the state criteria they will now have their candidates listed during the primary and they will be recognized in state held debates.
Basically... they aren't going anywhere.
Unofficial state results show that third-party candidates in Michigan earned a combined 233,249 votes compared with 51,136 in 2012 more than double the 108,944 third-party votes cast in 2000 when the Green Partys Ralph Nader garnered 84,165 votes.
We need to do better at swinging these votes.
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Switch Jill Stein votes to Clinton, and just half of Gary Johnson votes, and here's what you get: [View all]
scheming daemons
Nov 2016
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They attacked. And don't you forget it. They attacked and blew the whole fucking thing up!
boston bean
Nov 2016
#4
Your suggestion got us dubya and trump. Time to dump those voters who are spoilers
Lil Missy
Nov 2016
#43
I think part of the problem is that the corporate media has been "defining" the Clintons for years.
guillaumeb
Nov 2016
#94
There was plenty of substance in those responses. And your same empty rhetoric was used
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#41
Your statement is not even true and it is out of context. But that is the hallmark
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#73
This is self-serving and out of context again, the hallmark of the Clinton bashers.
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#81
This same tired rhetoric was used about Al Gore. He was picked to death, including
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#91
Oh, absolutely correct that it was the Bush bro Florida connection and the Supremes
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#99
Great points. We know that Obama is a tough act to follow and is almost a once-in-a-lifetime
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#105
Yeah Stein really convinced me breaking bread with Putin and Trumps man Flynn in Russia....
Historic NY
Nov 2016
#38
Ah, but they bask in the glow of the pure fire of their anger as it burns down advances made....
Hekate
Nov 2016
#6
To those who voted third party instead of Clinton because of principles I say....
hrmjustin
Nov 2016
#7
It is not ragging on someone to notice that they have no clear path to victory.
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#78
I was 9 then, but in university we studied the 2000 elections and I see so much "Nader as spoiler"
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#65
I know only 4 people here in London who voted Trump. All 4 voted against Hillary
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#90
The Average US-dwelling American has no idea how much the US foreign policy with the constant
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#96
I would blame ALL the people who didn't vote for her, not just 3rd party voters.
jmg257
Nov 2016
#24
Let's not forget that they're even further to the right of Republicans on the Economy.
HughBeaumont
Nov 2016
#56
Meh. It's the hundreds of thousands of registered Democrats that didn't bother to vote that we
progressoid
Nov 2016
#104