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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Switch Jill Stein votes to Clinton, and just half of Gary Johnson votes, and here's what you get: [View all]R B Garr
(16,950 posts)46. Ahem, an "independent" was running as a Democrat and did nothing but
tear the frontrunner down in ways she couldn't respond to so she didn't alienate his voters. So much for independents. Had Hillary been able to respond to his smears, she might have run a very different campaign but she was hamstrung while he played provocateur and poisoned the discourse with innuendo about her he could never prove when asked to do so.
He stayed in the race months after there was no clear path to victory. So much for independents. It sounds like the sore loser arguments are all yours. In fact, that is the premise of the Bern it down voters. If they can't have Bernie, then we can't have anyone at all.
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Switch Jill Stein votes to Clinton, and just half of Gary Johnson votes, and here's what you get: [View all]
scheming daemons
Nov 2016
OP
They attacked. And don't you forget it. They attacked and blew the whole fucking thing up!
boston bean
Nov 2016
#4
Your suggestion got us dubya and trump. Time to dump those voters who are spoilers
Lil Missy
Nov 2016
#43
I think part of the problem is that the corporate media has been "defining" the Clintons for years.
guillaumeb
Nov 2016
#94
There was plenty of substance in those responses. And your same empty rhetoric was used
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#41
Your statement is not even true and it is out of context. But that is the hallmark
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#73
This is self-serving and out of context again, the hallmark of the Clinton bashers.
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#81
This same tired rhetoric was used about Al Gore. He was picked to death, including
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#91
Oh, absolutely correct that it was the Bush bro Florida connection and the Supremes
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#99
Great points. We know that Obama is a tough act to follow and is almost a once-in-a-lifetime
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#105
Yeah Stein really convinced me breaking bread with Putin and Trumps man Flynn in Russia....
Historic NY
Nov 2016
#38
Ah, but they bask in the glow of the pure fire of their anger as it burns down advances made....
Hekate
Nov 2016
#6
To those who voted third party instead of Clinton because of principles I say....
hrmjustin
Nov 2016
#7
It is not ragging on someone to notice that they have no clear path to victory.
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#78
I was 9 then, but in university we studied the 2000 elections and I see so much "Nader as spoiler"
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#65
I know only 4 people here in London who voted Trump. All 4 voted against Hillary
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#90
The Average US-dwelling American has no idea how much the US foreign policy with the constant
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#96
I would blame ALL the people who didn't vote for her, not just 3rd party voters.
jmg257
Nov 2016
#24
Let's not forget that they're even further to the right of Republicans on the Economy.
HughBeaumont
Nov 2016
#56
Meh. It's the hundreds of thousands of registered Democrats that didn't bother to vote that we
progressoid
Nov 2016
#104