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treestar

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61. I admit I thought after that tape women would bury him
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:35 AM
Nov 2016

in a landslide. Instead he got 53% of white women! Most white women are smugly satisfied with what they can get under a patriarchy. How could any female being vote for him after hearing that? They must think they are exceptions and that men talk like that about other women, but not "me."

Still pretending this election outcome had nothing to do with racism I see leftofcool Nov 2016 #1
Or sexism. Or Comey. Or Gerrymandering. Or the media. Or Russia. JTFrog Nov 2016 #2
1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #28
I think we were poised to win until Comey pushed the false narrative, and the media insured that still_one Nov 2016 #33
And cover it they did. using the word criminal, let is hang for a week, then bring it back up two boston bean Nov 2016 #57
It sure did Boston. She won the popular vote, and she has more character and integrity still_one Nov 2016 #65
Exactly, that one is hilarious! treestar Nov 2016 #63
It was tRump she was running against, it shouldn't even even been close. JudyM Nov 2016 #66
Lol, ok. nt JTFrog Nov 2016 #67
I think the racism issue falls under #1 in the list SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #3
1, this is my hopeful take ... that the DNC will realize how many people will tolerate overt racism uponit7771 Nov 2016 #29
True, after President Obama had been elected twice treestar Nov 2016 #64
I'm not saying that at all... I don't think these were the most important factors in the outcome Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #11
Of course not. Just pointing out that bigotry wasn't the only thing that mattered. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #19
Bigotry isn't in the top 5 though uponit7771 Nov 2016 #30
Not even saying THAT. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #38
Exactly, Ken! True Dough Nov 2016 #52
Racism & sexism were not tactical mistakes by Hillary Nevernose Nov 2016 #37
Or the damn electoral college! treestar Nov 2016 #62
She won lunamagica Nov 2016 #4
... popularly, but lost electorally. Like Al Gore. closeupready Nov 2016 #6
her ads were all reactions to trump. Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #5
From feed back that we were getting Wellstone ruled Nov 2016 #7
I agree. A lot of the qualities we thought were awful about Trump The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2016 #8
I think we (and her campaign) did NOT expect the weird appeal Trump had on the GOP Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #12
But they should have. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2016 #14
yeap, polling America is dead to me... not even a post mortem of WTF happened other than uponit7771 Nov 2016 #31
I agree. lovemydog Nov 2016 #22
The way I NOW see it .... LenaBaby61 Nov 2016 #9
THANK YOU ! all the others are peripheral to the FBI, Russians, voter suppression and endless dronin uponit7771 Nov 2016 #32
Exactly! Madam45for2923 Nov 2016 #59
No. That's not why she won more votes but didn't achieve a majority in the Electoral College. MADem Nov 2016 #10
just to re-iterate, I don't think those factors I listed were most important in this weird election Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #13
More mansplaining b.s. nt duffyduff Nov 2016 #15
What's your take? lovemydog Nov 2016 #23
All these DU campaign experts mcar Nov 2016 #16
Your list is food for thought Yonnie3 Nov 2016 #17
That's one of my takes on this election--after 8 years of a Democrat as president, not Nay Nov 2016 #69
I think she ran a fairly good campaign many a good man Nov 2016 #18
They never crafted a SIMPLE economic message? You mean, they never did the impossible? pnwmom Nov 2016 #20
I hear you... part of it is they were too honest. Trump of course gave dumb, simple, dishonest Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #21
You're both right. This is the Democrats' challenge. yardwork Nov 2016 #26
yes, exactly. It's an ironic tragedy that Hillary actually was the most honest of all of them Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #35
And John Kerry. yardwork Nov 2016 #39
But Bill's election was light years away from now. And she wasn't running against Obama, pnwmom Nov 2016 #34
I've been thinking about that too. lovemydog Nov 2016 #24
Yes, I know what you mean Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #36
Message doesn't actually have to be the truth. LisaL Nov 2016 #42
Yup. Trump has proven you can lie through your teeth about everything pnwmom Nov 2016 #43
Do we want to win elections or not? LisaL Nov 2016 #46
You are certainly correct. Scruffy1 Nov 2016 #58
I think the lies on social media had a much greater impact than we realized. yardwork Nov 2016 #25
Mistakes were half of it BeyondGeography Nov 2016 #27
Warren wasn't the best option pnwmom Nov 2016 #44
And that's precisely why she's so popular among those who hate Hillary. athena Nov 2016 #47
Exactly. n/t pnwmom Nov 2016 #48
She didn't try because Hillary was going to beat her BeyondGeography Nov 2016 #54
And yet this "poor campaigner" somehow managed to have the "black vote pretty much locked up." pnwmom Nov 2016 #56
1. Podesta's lack of taking internet security serious. 2. The campaign not taking Bill's advice NWCorona Nov 2016 #40
Hillary also took way too much time off. Ace Rothstein Nov 2016 #41
She did really well in the debates. athena Nov 2016 #45
She was good in the debates. Ace Rothstein Nov 2016 #50
1) Bernie warned about focusing so much on personality issues. SMC22307 Nov 2016 #49
true... but it was more than simply a foul mouth Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #55
I agree, but if there are voters who are being crushed economically... SMC22307 Nov 2016 #68
Regarding Number One RandySF Nov 2016 #51
yes, the GOP has once again proved themselves to be the most shameless motherfuckers on Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #53
You know what's really horrible? All my life I have watched the shameless Nay Nov 2016 #71
yep... it's damned depressing Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #72
She ran a very good campaign overall - her only "tactical mistake" Cosmocat Nov 2016 #60
I admit I thought after that tape women would bury him treestar Nov 2016 #61
yes, there was some real insanity going on in this election Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #73
Disappearing after election night? After Trump's "lock her up".... JTFrog Nov 2016 #70
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