Just because you say Bernie didn't cost Hillary the election doesn't make it true. (Reply #326)

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Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:06 AM

Demsrule86 (52,934 posts)

326. Just because you say Bernie didn't cost Hillary the election doesn't make it true.

Had Bernie never run, we would have President Clinton...why he did this in such a crucial year for the courts etc...I will never understand.

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Breaking News - Sanders now willing to work with TRUMP to raise the min. wage to 10.00 dollars [View all]	otohara	Nov 2016	OP
This is the kind of decision we will have to make.	HassleCat	Nov 2016	#1
We don't work with them period.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#66
It's just as wrong for Dems to refuse to work with Pubs as it was for them to refuse	napi21	Nov 2016	#76
And the establishment of stupid political capital line too?	lonestarnot	Nov 2016	#83
We have a system now where only GOP types are allowed to govern.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#102
I don't care about congressional ratings.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#136
There's NO reason to make the gov't appear to be functional under GOP control. This...	NurseJackie	Nov 2016	#165
I uunderdstand that but I don't want another 4 years of doing absolutelyj NOTHING either.	napi21	Nov 2016	#180
It's all about optics. If min wage is raised under a Repub president, that's how people will see it.	BlueCaliDem	Nov 2016	#302
Wrong. No point screwing min wage workers over principle	hueymahl	Nov 2016	#201
And that's how they win. Why give them the advantage? Why be lap dogs?	NurseJackie	Nov 2016	#206
Who are the "you guys" you keep referring to?	hueymahl	Nov 2016	#207
So, sometimes it's okay to stand on principle, and sometimes it's not.	NurseJackie	Nov 2016	#210
Well, you guys have it all wrong	hueymahl	Nov 2016	#211
But apparently you DO believe in giving the GOP a present of being FULLY in charge...	NurseJackie	Nov 2016	#212
I wish you would stop attacking me and listen to what I am saying	hueymahl	Nov 2016	#215
Tnhose who didn't vote for Clinton did that.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#289
There is no "you guys". We're all on the same side here.	Ken Burch	Nov 2016	#316
It is very strange to me...they refused to	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#260
They're not thinking clearly. They're blindly following Bernie's lead. They are guilty of ...	NurseJackie	Nov 2016	#273
Bernie has a fan club for whatever he proposes no mater what.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#290
Sounds like you agree that the only way government will be allowed to work is if the GOP is in	TeamPooka	Nov 2016	#244
So we should obstruct, even at the expense of the American people?	Glassunion	Nov 2016	#301
Thanks to Obama, we can hold out another 2 or 4 years. But we MUST take a stand now	BlueCaliDem	Nov 2016	#303
So we should obstruct regardless of those it helps or hurts?	Glassunion	Nov 2016	#304
Yes. This is an unusual presumptive PEOTUS, therefore nothing should be business as usual.	BlueCaliDem	Nov 2016	#314
Disagree. Lesson of GOP obstruction and lies is that it works. They get what they want.	bench scientist	Nov 2016	#205
Not any more. Now it's a long game. n/t	LisaM	Nov 2016	#230
The GOP has proven to the American people that political obstruction based on principle is a noble	TeamPooka	Nov 2016	#243
The corporate wing of the party goes bipartisan--just on all the wrong issues	yurbud	Nov 2016	#130
It was exactly wrong. our job is to stop the GOP from	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#133
"...you legitimize Trump by working with him..."	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#144
While I do not agree with that, I would be impressed to see the Democrats do it.	yurbud	Nov 2016	#159
Thank you. A voice of reason among those driven insane by losing to the orange one.	hueymahl	Nov 2016	#204
it looks like they are taking steps in that direction--the question is whether symbolism will be	yurbud	Nov 2016	#312
Do not work with them...no surrender...no no and more no.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#229
consider the odds of Trump & GOP making ANY	yurbud	Nov 2016	#237
Did you know that Bush threatened to declare martial law if the Dems did not pass Tarp?	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#291
Do you have a link for that? Also, how did that prevent Obama from prosecuting Wall St?	yurbud	Nov 2016	#311
100%!!!!	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#139
Exactly...only we succeed in making Trump a one term president...and	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#228
There is a correct answer.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#101
Bingo!	TeamPooka	Nov 2016	#245
We only give them cover.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#250
and then Trump comes out and says "I told you I was the only one who could fix this!" Fuck that shit	TeamPooka	Nov 2016	#251
this is ridiculous. Don't work with republicans if you have to give them more than you get.	JCanete	Nov 2016	#319
Bernie is putting out the challenge. Trump will deny he ever said anything about this.	Buzz Clik	Nov 2016	#2
It's good politics to push positive solutions for the people, failed politics to call him a traitor.	TheBlackAdder	Nov 2016	#175
No we have to play by their rules or we will never win.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#252
So, we devolve just like the Repugs--tit for tat, like an elementary school fight as people suffer.	TheBlackAdder	Nov 2016	#274
Trump will most likely try to do away w/ min wage completely.	True_Blue	Nov 2016	#307
But he couldn't give work with Hillary for 12 it had to be 15 or she was a	boston bean	Nov 2016	#3
It's stunning to see, isn't it? I know it's just a gambit for Bernie, but yeah...	bettyellen	Nov 2016	#6
You think we should admire this?	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#104
Nope, I meant stunning in the worst way. Strange times.	bettyellen	Nov 2016	#108
I agree with that completely.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#141
She wasn't president at the time	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#9
And the goal posts start moving	mcar	Nov 2016	#25
Yup.	LisaM	Nov 2016	#30
Yup!	sheshe2	Nov 2016	#52
What goal post?	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#55
No he is not. He is capitulating, period. They all will.	leftofcool	Nov 2016	#67
and how do you know this?	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#70
There are none so blind as those	WhiteTara	Nov 2016	#184
You could be referring to me, the others in this thread, or everyone...	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#189
So you're for the 10 minimum wage?	WhiteTara	Nov 2016	#191
Nope	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#192
Yes, you are correct. This election	WhiteTara	Nov 2016	#199
I can't relate to it but I can respect your point of view	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#208
WhiteTara, this is an absolutely first rate post.	LisaM	Nov 2016	#234
I am going.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#261
I want to go. I found a hostel for	WhiteTara	Nov 2016	#275
What State are you in Tara?	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#292
I'm in Arkansas	WhiteTara	Nov 2016	#298
Ohio	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#310
What a wonderful post.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#263
I must disagree with you on one point here	Bodhi BloodWave	Nov 2016	#323
I see your point but you have to understand	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#325
i'll be honest	Bodhi BloodWave	Nov 2016	#330
If McCain or Romney had won, I would agree with you.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#332
No it doesn't. It means we lose.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#253
Same to you - how do you know he's just exposing Trump's lies?	Lil Missy	Nov 2016	#285
Because I have met the man	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#300
Yep, it is capitulation. I would not have expected Bernie to be first in line	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#111
Me either	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#178
Where is the liberal...fighter?	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#217
Well the cynic in me says the 15 dollars an hour	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#221
You are probably right. It makes me sad for all those kids who had such faith	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#254
Is he talking about how corrupt the appointees are? The pay for play and bizarre	bettyellen	Nov 2016	#278
Bernie is willing to work with Trump.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#105
Bernie is a political genius... showing his true progressive leadership skills.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2016	#69
Really?	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#103
Schumer should kick Bernie out of committees?! Really? Dems would be wise to put Bernie in a leadership position.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2016	#106
He is in leadership.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#112
While I couldn't disagree with you more, I see where your coming from and respect your right to be wrong...	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2016	#127
I hope Bernie fights Trump and stands with Democrats	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#140
Thanks for your kind words. No doubt we ALL have to unite in fighting that shit stain on our democracy tRump, the second coming of Hitler who threatens our very existence.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2016	#167
I completely agree.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#219
Why So He Can Call Dems Liberal Elites	otohara	Nov 2016	#231
Is he really...kick him out...honestly he will only cause more damage.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#255
The only thing that will lead to a 48 state loss	hueymahl	Nov 2016	#203
Working with Trump is the moderate path.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#216
There are places to fight him tooth and nail	hueymahl	Nov 2016	#227
No Republican will ever advance the progressive agenda when they have	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#256
Nope	otohara	Nov 2016	#12
And he got it from her as well...	sfwriter	Nov 2016	#14
He is so principled and can negotiate for something better. But hillary	boston bean	Nov 2016	#16
Isn't it amazing how 13 an hour was "selling out"....	ehrnst	Nov 2016	#213
Some Revolution	otohara	Nov 2016	#18
Yep. (nt)	ehrnst	Nov 2016	#214
Not gonna work though IMHO.	LenaBaby61	Nov 2016	#32
STOP IT! Seriously FFS already.	onecaliberal	Nov 2016	#29
THIS	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2016	#33
He was trying to win the nomination...	TrekLuver	Nov 2016	#35
Trump is about to appoint Jeff Sessions	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#110
What you are seeing here is how people overlook the racism...	boston bean	Nov 2016	#147
Thank you...they may not be racist but they cast a racist vote...anyone who voted for Trump.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#225
Oh I know it's shaping up to be a Rogues Gallery...I'm not surprised...this is	TrekLuver	Nov 2016	#149
We shouldn't help them.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#224
YES!!!!!!!	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#146
Ye gods, that's what jumped out at me. 10 fu&cking dollars!	Fla Dem	Nov 2016	#150
wtf is this nonsense. Please tell me you didn't think this through.	JCanete	Nov 2016	#320
Trump called for eliminating the federal minimum wage. He also called for it to be raised.	NCTraveler	Nov 2016	#4
Of course, Hillary was excoriated for suggesting	WhiteTara	Nov 2016	#5
Ripped Her Apart -	otohara	Nov 2016	#8
Corporate wall street sellout whore was	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#155
Well, white men are back in charge and	WhiteTara	Nov 2016	#182
"Well, white men are back in charge and...."	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#183
except for that scream so	WhiteTara	Nov 2016	#185
Yeah..self portrait since Amerika voted Trump Fuhrer	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#186
That's what I look like on	WhiteTara	Nov 2016	#188
Schwarzenegger was the Gropenfuhrer	jmowreader	Nov 2016	#336
Trump is going to abolish the minimum wage not raise it.	leftofcool	Nov 2016	#7
Hillary couldn't wait to "work with Republicans", and I well remember	BlueProgressive	Nov 2016	#11
Welcome to DU.	guillaumeb	Nov 2016	#27
Obama was faulted on this board	mcar	Nov 2016	#56
Different situations?	guillaumeb	Nov 2016	#177
Sorry, no cigar.	leftofcool	Nov 2016	#84
Well, you all should know.	BlueProgressive	Nov 2016	#93
Yes it is. It is working with the devil. Working with Trump gives him legitimacy	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#114
Wrong wrong and wrong	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#107
Trump isn't really a Republican. He uses their name, but he isa different monster altogether.	AgadorSparticus	Nov 2016	#179
Wasn't this the same guy who decried Hillary for considering an increase to 12?	hrmjustin	Nov 2016	#10
Nor me	phallon	Nov 2016	#13
Why?	sfwriter	Nov 2016	#15
That is a convenient excuse.	hrmjustin	Nov 2016	#17
This Must Be Part Of The Revolution	otohara	Nov 2016	#23
But it PE Clinton reached out to Rs	mcar	Nov 2016	#26
Word like "traitor", "sellout", "POSUCs" and "Republican"...	greatauntoftriplets	Nov 2016	#43
Oh yeah	mcar	Nov 2016	#47
Never.	greatauntoftriplets	Nov 2016	#59
"Corporatist!!11"	mcar	Nov 2016	#62
As much as I try to forget.	greatauntoftriplets	Nov 2016	#75
It is a traitors move in my opinion. He should not do it.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#115
and of course when she does that she is called a manipulative liar	dsc	Nov 2016	#187
Yes, one in the same.	grossproffit	Nov 2016	#20
Bernie is practical......this isn't a discussion between liberals	virtualobserver	Nov 2016	#31
That doesn't fly with me.	hrmjustin	Nov 2016	#37
He isn't abandoning those people currently working for 7	virtualobserver	Nov 2016	#38
Gee, that was our argument for Hillary in the primary and we got called third way stooges.	hrmjustin	Nov 2016	#39
Look where it got her....small ideas create small enthusiasm	virtualobserver	Nov 2016	#45
Or is Sanders settling just for 10?	hrmjustin	Nov 2016	#74
He is boxing Trump in...Trump said that he would support a 10 minimum wage	virtualobserver	Nov 2016	#88
This is a win win for DPutin... he says yes, he wins .. he says no... he wins and no one cares	uponit7771	Nov 2016	#294
Who was Hillary being "practical" against?	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2016	#64
Her point was that not every area could afford a 15 minimum wage. I am not saying I agreed or...	hrmjustin	Nov 2016	#73
He should aim higher after Trump pulled his Ford stunt.	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2016	#85
There was consensus among a group of Dem senators from different states that 12 was doable	bettyellen	Nov 2016	#109
Always aim high in your negotiations....	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2016	#197
Always lie to the public? I've seen a few pundits reccomend that too. Lie to coal workers, to	bettyellen	Nov 2016	#200
Where did you get that from what I posted?	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2016	#202
He is abandoning as he gives Trump legitimacy.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#119
You can't abandon the country for four years	virtualobserver	Nov 2016	#151
Yes you can, and you must	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#223
LOL, there is nothing about Bernie's platform that could ever be described as "pratical."	MadBadger	Nov 2016	#79
Really...well I am sure Trump who will be so accomodating.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#116
You want to win the midterms? Let Bernie do his work.	virtualobserver	Nov 2016	#153
Bullshit...Bernie will either be blamed and Democrats who he is associated with if	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#222
me either	DemonGoddess	Nov 2016	#89
Not here either.	we can do it	Nov 2016	#305
Within a week he's read to work w/ Trump, yet he couldn't afford Hillary the same courtesy.	grossproffit	Nov 2016	#19
What are you talking about?	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#58
Perhaps you don't remember him saying	athena	Nov 2016	#68
Holding someone accountable is not the same as fighting with them.	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#71
No he did not campaign for her vigorously.	LisaM	Nov 2016	#131
Thank you! If I never saw him again it would be too soon.	grossproffit	Nov 2016	#269
Yes that is it. It shows how indepenents are way more willing to work	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#117
But Trump says American workers are paid too much and that's why we can't compete	Vinca	Nov 2016	#21
No thanks Bernie, states are taking up the matter and going for the original 15!!!	Pisces	Nov 2016	#22
But Hillary saying 12 was a deal breaker?	mcar	Nov 2016	#24
I'm sick of Bernie	theglammistress	Nov 2016	#28
I'm sick of losing election cycle after election cycle.	Cobalt Violet	Nov 2016	#97
So he works with Triimp? Sorry, I think it is a terrible thing to do.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#120
Ditto. What are Democrats going to do to win back 64 Rust Belt electoral votes?	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#240
I live in Ohio	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#118
I hope it's not against the rules to say that I don't trust either of them. n/t	Tarheel_Dem	Nov 2016	#34
You're Not Alone	otohara	Nov 2016	#41
Keep laughing...	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#60
Plan On It - Ha, Ha, Ha	otohara	Nov 2016	#72
I voted for Hillary	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#142
Wrong and more wrong. He is doing no good and should fight	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#121
Truthfully I'm pushing my opinion on his intent.	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#143
There is no point...we will be screwed over and made to look bad or weak or both.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#226
Why shouldn't he work with this Trashpot to try to improve the lives of Americans?	TrekLuver	Nov 2016	#36
That's not our point	Erin_Petrovna	Nov 2016	#42
Yes and I addressed that by saying he was trying to win the nomination...that's why.	TrekLuver	Nov 2016	#44
I don't care if he was trying to be named Homecoming King	Erin_Petrovna	Nov 2016	#50
I'm a realist....get a grip this is politics !!!!!	TrekLuver	Nov 2016	#51
Plus 1!	dae	Nov 2016	#96
He shouldn't work with Trump because it legitmizes true evil.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#122
Right and if we do this, we legitimize his presidency...as we just elected Hitler II	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#233
K&R	otohara	Nov 2016	#40
K&R, I agree but not for the same reason. You blame Bernie	dae	Nov 2016	#99
I do blame Bernie	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#124
Sorry but we have elections here, not coronations.	dae	Nov 2016	#181
Well Trump is now the president...so pardon me if I don't shed a few tears	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#218
Believe what you will but just because you and others say	dae	Nov 2016	#318
Just because you say Bernie didn't cost Hillary the election doesn't make it true.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#326
Ego.	fleabiscuit	Nov 2016	#329
You are correct, it was Her turn. It doesn't matter how high	dae	Nov 2016	#335
Called it. The Bernie-bashing is going to hit primary levels again.	VulgarPoet	Nov 2016	#331
12 wasn't enough though right?	rbrnmw	Nov 2016	#46
12 wasn't enough	mcar	Nov 2016	#48
Not from a Democrat.	sfwriter	Nov 2016	#63
Exactly (n/t)	Amaril	Nov 2016	#172
Yup	phallon	Nov 2016	#276
Bernie will now work for Trump... OK...	MyNameIsKhan	Nov 2016	#49
That is what is happening, and he should not be allowed to do it from a Democratic	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#125
Do you want struggling Americans to have a higher minimum wage, or not? (n/t)	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#242
No, I don't want shit the Gop is oferring...you can bet it will come with strings...and sneaky shit.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#293
I'd be more afraid that the GOP would try to end the minimum wage altogether. NT	andym	Nov 2016	#53
No way this doesn't Bern the Bro's.	NCTraveler	Nov 2016	#54
this	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#126
Wow	Bobbie Jo	Nov 2016	#57
The GOP wants the minimum wage to be 3.50 an hour.	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2016	#61
Yep. And they control all three branches of government.	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#82
Kicking	otohara	Nov 2016	#65
Say it ain't so	ucrdem	Nov 2016	#77
Everyone, please read the posts ...	Sunny05	Nov 2016	#78
What do you expect a United States Senator to do?	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#81
Weird how pragmatic, baby steps, practical progressivism is now bad.	GreenPartyVoter	Nov 2016	#95
LOL! No, practical baby step progressivism was bad when Hillary proposed anything realistic.	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#132
Its very obvious now right?	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#157
It is totally obvious, but sadly actually expected. To think we spent	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#160
And where are all the "feel the bern" people now	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#163
10 is a small piece of this puzzle	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#193
And yet Hillary was called a Third way/wall street bankster whore	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#194
Well those are your words, not mine	ThirdEye	Nov 2016	#198
LOL, no kidding.	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#241
Anything that give legitmacy to the orange fascist is bad.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#288
I expect a US senator to fight for what is right.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#128
2020, eh? How are Dems going to win back the 64 electoral votes lost...	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#239
Trump is a liar.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#249
Dems didn't go after the Bush Admin or Wall Street criminals.	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#266
Trump doing the right thing?	leftofcool	Nov 2016	#262
Wonderful!	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#80
Damn. I thought it would be safe to come back here, with the election over.	mac56	Nov 2016	#86
.	dae	Nov 2016	#100
Thank you Bernie for bringing the action.	aikoaiko	Nov 2016	#87
I am not. It makes us look weak and divided.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#129
Should'nt we be starting the bid a little bit higher	FrenchieCat	Nov 2016	#90
Exactly.	Bobbie Jo	Nov 2016	#113
This is pure gold. Bookmarking. nt	stevenleser	Nov 2016	#91
Actually, here's Sanders' exact quote, not a CNN reporter's spin.	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#92
Stop! Interjecting facts are not allowed in certain circles	dae	Nov 2016	#94
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Thank you. /nt	think	Nov 2016	#123
I wonder if he'll apologize to Hillary for excoriating her realistic 12/hr.	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#134
As long as you ignore Bernie's actual statement posted right above your outrage makes sense....	think	Nov 2016	#135
Uh, yeah. I saw it. He wanted higher. No kidding! Who doesn't.	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#138
He's holding Trump to his words. He says he wants more but he nor Clinton aren't president are they?	think	Nov 2016	#152
Yep and had Bernie not run Clinton would be president elect.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#154
If it makes you feel better keep telling yourself that. Why did Debbie Wasserman Schultz resign?	think	Nov 2016	#156
We lost by less than 300,000 votes in three key states	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#220
I will agree that we are facing some very bad times. I wish you well. Take care....	think	Nov 2016	#232
Thanks... you too. This is not really about Bernie...the damage is done	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#248
Bernie's not doing anything like that. Shame on you for suggesting such a thing. Bernie fights hard	think	Nov 2016	#257
By working with Trump and ignoring...the appointment of Sessions and wanting judges who will jail	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#283
And the damage done. Did you forget why DWS resigned? Wow....	think	Nov 2016	#271
She won her election and was a convenient scapegoat.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#282
LOL, that's hilarious. The hypocrisy is astounding. He maligned Hillary for 12/hr,	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#158
"He talked about raising the minimum wage to 10, Sanders said. Thats not high enough for me,"	think	Nov 2016	#161
Yes, reality only matters now that Sanders has to deal with it.	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#168
Bernie wanted to raise the minimum wage to 15 by 2020. That is unrealistic?	think	Nov 2016	#169
Oh, ffs. He said he was against incremental change, but that's because it was	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#171
"Heres a partial transcript from a speech Sanders delivered on Wednesday "	think	Nov 2016	#173
Quit spamming. It's obvious you are making excuses for Bernie backtracking on	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#174
"I wonder if he'll apologize to Hillary for excoriating her realistic 12/hr"	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#170
10? WTF happened to 15?	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#137
Great point about the Repubs taking credit for it! You are on to	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#145
Sure they obstruct and fight President Obama for 8 years straight	workinclasszero	Nov 2016	#148
Why is this breaking news?	wisteria	Nov 2016	#162
Blame game...	LP2K12	Nov 2016	#164
Breaking News	Uponthegears	Nov 2016	#166
Good! We need to raise the minimum wage	book_worm	Nov 2016	#176
I guess 10 and hour is no longer selling out. It's "pragmatism."	ehrnst	Nov 2016	#190
FUCK!!!!!!! n/t	cynatnite	Nov 2016	#195
More BREAKING NEWS	otohara	Nov 2016	#196
Bernie HAD worked with Hillary. There's no betrayal or double standard here.	Ken Burch	Nov 2016	#209
Really Ken	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#235
OK. I thought it was a "Bernie is more willing to work with Trump than with HRC" argument.	Ken Burch	Nov 2016	#238
As a woman ken I am used to their being a double standard for women	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#246
He was JUST as willing to work with Hillary.	Ken Burch	Nov 2016	#247
Hillary is not Trump. Working with Hillary who is on your team good	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#258
Fine.	Ken Burch	Nov 2016	#259
I hope so...after this election; I take nothing at face value.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#284
He campaigned hard to elect Hillary.	Ken Burch	Nov 2016	#297
Berne fought hard against Hillary in the primary.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#309
It goes without saying that he fights the right.	Ken Burch	Nov 2016	#315
When? He has already offered to make nice with Trump.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#317
What the fuck ever Bernie.	Maven	Nov 2016	#236
Should we work to get minimum wages increased?	think	Nov 2016	#264
We shouldn't work to give Trump credibility.	Maven	Nov 2016	#265
Improved wages and (possible) jobs from...	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#268
You're a fool if you think repukes in congress will pass those things	Maven	Nov 2016	#272
Post removed	Post removed	Nov 2016	#280
Please read today's TPM about how Trump's infrastructure bill	Maven	Nov 2016	#286
That doesn't answer my question about what the Democratic Party...	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#287
The one with full employement and a rising LFPR ?! REALLY?! We're swing RWTP's now?!?!	uponit7771	Nov 2016	#296
Privatized roads and utilities would be very harmful to the working class.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#308
Yes. And for a massive infrastructure bill. (n/t)	SMC22307	Nov 2016	#267
... to build toll roads and privatized utilities.	ucrdem	Nov 2016	#270
For privatized roads - NOPE. Fuck that.	bettyellen	Nov 2016	#277
no we should not work with the evil scum that is Trump...and privatization is not the liberal way.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#279
Bernie knows he's proposing privatizing the commons and says nothing?	bettyellen	Nov 2016	#306
NO. It won't happen and business as usual create a normalcy around Trump that must not happen.	Demsrule86	Nov 2016	#281
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SANDERS SAID TEN IS NOT ENOUGH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	uponit7771	Nov 2016	#295
Who's all for incrementalism now... GRRRRRRRRR	JCMach1	Nov 2016	#299
We could have gotten more, if say, Bernie had won the nomination.	JCanete	Nov 2016	#321
what happened to 15/hr?	wordpix	Nov 2016	#313
BREAKING: Sanders Still Trying to Raise Minimum Wage	Orsino	Nov 2016	#322
Meh...Bernie is Mr. Irrelevant, especially now. nt	LexVegas	Nov 2016	#324
Having failed people of ALL races, genders, orientations, religions and races	Uponthegears	Nov 2016	#327
does this right before the nationwide Fight of 15 initiative this weekend?	lunasun	Nov 2016	#328
Great! Let's legitimize a hostile takeover by white nationalists!	ecstatic	Nov 2016	#333
"15 or nothing!" "How about 12?" "No!" "How about 10?" "Okay."	tandem5	Nov 2016	#334
Let me get this straight	jmowreader	Nov 2016	#337

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