Polsters response: "...well, that's a rational question...but fuck you ok? go fuck off k? " /sarcasm (Reply #47)

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uponit7771 (88,623 posts)

47. Polsters response: "...well, that's a rational question...but fuck you ok? go fuck off k? " /sarcasm

Cause that's about what we're hearing from these polsters ... a buncha fuck you America... please believe us next time type of responses

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Wisconsin 4-month run-up: Clinton leads by 6 points ... until Nov. 8: [View all]	ucrdem	Nov 2016	OP
The polls were wrong.	Buzz Clik	Nov 2016	#1
Were the 300,000 votes thrown out for wrong id also wrong?	Tiggeroshii	Nov 2016	#5
No they weren't. Private companies programmed the machines before 1 off was ever cast	onecaliberal	Nov 2016	#81
Which polls were wrong?	ucrdem	Nov 2016	#6
As I stated before, the polls weren't wrong. Just the data sets which were used in these data sets	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#11
Okay but didn't Trump's numbers in the same polls use the same data sets?	ucrdem	Nov 2016	#46
No, they used some shit from mars... they pulled DPutins LV out of their asses and threw them on	uponit7771	Nov 2016	#52
Yes, every single one of those polls were wrong according to the msm... all the polling science	uponit7771	Nov 2016	#48
duh	Buzz Clik	Nov 2016	#89
Polls couldn't be that wrong	radius777	Nov 2016	#65
Even Nate Silver cautioned a couple days ahead of the election that HRC's lead was pretty thin...	Hassin Bin Sober	Nov 2016	#68
Yep	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#75
Or worse...	Bob41213	Nov 2016	#105
Odds are just that. Odds.	LisaL	Nov 2016	#76
Yeah, Silver had the Cubs at 1 in 4 chance of winning the Series.	Hassin Bin Sober	Nov 2016	#80
No candidate in 50 years has lost with her type of leads	radius777	Nov 2016	#104
You've got to be kidding. Were you not around for the primaries?	Buzz Clik	Nov 2016	#90
not that wrong	MFM008	Nov 2016	#78
People used the wrong data when putting together these charts.	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#2
Isn't polling a SCIENCE	cilla4progress	Nov 2016	#7
Yes. But like any science it depends on the data sets that are used.	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#8
Yes and they worked before	treestar	Nov 2016	#10
It's NOT the polls that were wrong. It was the people interpreting the poll numbers.	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#20
It's most certainly ALSO an ART	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#15
Add to that, polling could potentially influence the results itself.	LisaL	Nov 2016	#16
Absolutely	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#17
That was my concern and I believe some of it did take place.	LisaL	Nov 2016	#19
I "thought" that they were safe too.	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#21
Campaign was presumably getting the same polling results showing these states were safe.	LisaL	Nov 2016	#26
So where was Trump getting his polling from?	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#57
if they had rigging operations in those states	radius777	Nov 2016	#63
One didn't need polls to know she wasn't doing all that well with rural white voters.	LisaL	Nov 2016	#77
I agree 100%	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#35
Yes, but as the charts show	cilla4progress	Nov 2016	#18
First I would argue is that they weren't consistent.	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#22
They do their own calling	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#24
No they're not. They're a social science. There's no art involved.	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#23
There is a lot of guessing involved.	LisaL	Nov 2016	#25
There's no guessing involved, but there is a margin of error.	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#32
No guessing involved?	LisaL	Nov 2016	#34
Which is based off of data sets. It's not guess work. Polls showed that voter turnout was going to	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#39
Polls don't actually show anything.	LisaL	Nov 2016	#62
Sorry... that's self-contradictory	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#28
Social scence does include art, it just studies it. I've also never met a pollster that will tell	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#36
Really?	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#40
Did Mark Penn get this election right?	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#41
Lol... you don't realize the implication there... do you?	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#43
I do realize it. The implication is that any pollster that says polling is an art is going to get	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#44
Um... so where are the "scientific" pollsters who got it right?	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#45
There are lists of people who broke down the same polls and came up with how this election would	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#49
And you're hiding from naming them now because...?	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#53
Montgomery and Hollenbech from Vox got it right.	Exilednight	Nov 2016	#58
Now you're just grasping at straws	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#60
Yes, and?	Bob41213	Nov 2016	#106
Provisional and cross check?	Satch59	Nov 2016	#3
Excuse my ignorance - so...	cilla4progress	Nov 2016	#12
I'm confused also...	Satch59	Nov 2016	#27
WI says they're looking	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#37
Wisconsin has has same day registration	forthemiddle	Nov 2016	#85
Got it	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#86
i recorded the show. let me play it back and see if i can clarify	KewlKat	Nov 2016	#61
Ok....here are my notes and quotes from the Joy Reid episode from this morning	KewlKat	Nov 2016	#70
Wow great report!	Satch59	Nov 2016	#84
Palast warned us in August about the crosscheck purge but none of us screamed loud enough	KewlKat	Nov 2016	#87
I would not be at all surprised if there are uncounted...	3catwoman3	Nov 2016	#88
Same in other battleground states, same rigorous, accurate polling in all of them.	Coyotl	Nov 2016	#4
CrossCheat	Zambero	Nov 2016	#9
How likely is it to find this	cilla4progress	Nov 2016	#13
I'm wondering the same	Zambero	Nov 2016	#29
I'm pretty sure that Crossscheck	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#42
Polls don't win elections.	LisaL	Nov 2016	#14
However...	Zambero	Nov 2016	#31
But Crosscheck doesn't filter votes	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#74
I think it's now blindingly obvious that	anamnua	Nov 2016	#30
Not evidenced by thousands of Trump yard signs	Zambero	Nov 2016	#33
I wanted to put on a Hillary bumper sticker, but	BlueProgressive	Nov 2016	#102
I do not believe that for a second	cilla4progress	Nov 2016	#38
I don't know about that.	Hassin Bin Sober	Nov 2016	#71
This idea might have some merit, however	Stargleamer	Nov 2016	#51
Each state is different.	LisaL	Nov 2016	#59
Polsters response: "...well, that's a rational question...but fuck you ok? go fuck off k? " /sarcasm	uponit7771	Nov 2016	#47
LOL. Remember 2004?	ucrdem	Nov 2016	#50
Yeap... these fuckers are either in on it or stupid beyond belief	uponit7771	Nov 2016	#54
Yet Trump was leading Iowa.	RandySF	Nov 2016	#55
That's not what RCP reported IIRC	uponit7771	Nov 2016	#56
IA/OH are swing states, WI/MI are not. /nt	radius777	Nov 2016	#64
Obviously WI and MI are swing states because they swung republican this election.	LisaL	Nov 2016	#73
I think they were stolen.	radius777	Nov 2016	#100
They were stolen	triron	Nov 2016	#101
Polls were off. They were overestimating turnout and were missing people.	davidn3600	Nov 2016	#66
initial exits were wrong regarding Latinos	radius777	Nov 2016	#67
The enthusiasm that was there for Obama just simply was not there for her	davidn3600	Nov 2016	#69
Us democrats, we need to be excited in order to vote.	LisaL	Nov 2016	#72
True, but every candidate has flaws, and she was more than good enough	radius777	Nov 2016	#99
WE are a blue state	jodymarie aimee	Nov 2016	#79
You aren't blue any more	FBaggins	Nov 2016	#83
Thank you, never doubted it	ucrdem	Nov 2016	#103
Post convention	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#82
They don't have TV, radio, print and social media?	ucrdem	Nov 2016	#91
I understand that	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#92
Hillary was there in March and April and Bill, Chelsea, Tim Kaine and Joe Biden	ucrdem	Nov 2016	#93
Sending surrogates	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#94
How would they even know?	ucrdem	Nov 2016	#95
Seriously?	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#96
Seriously. She WAS there, for several days. As to who won the state, that remains to be seen.	ucrdem	Nov 2016	#97
Yeah, she was there 7 months before the election	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#98

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