2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Wisconsin 4-month run-up: Clinton leads by 6 points ... until Nov. 8: [View all]KewlKat
(5,624 posts)Joy - My next guest has a lot to say how about votes may have been stolen but not in the way many of you think.
She reads some from Greg Palast's Rolling Stones article, Rolling stones, 24 Aug, Palast article, GOPs Stealth War Against Voters
Conversation -
Crosscheck was in use in WI MI PA NC, state where Hillary Clinton seemed on track to win but lost.
Crosschecks childish methodology; Created by Kris Kobach, now up for a job in drumpf administration; In MI (50,000) and NC (huge, maybe 100,000 but at least 35,000) the wipe out of Black, Hispanic and young voters was massive, crosscheck vote wiped out was massive;
Palast -
Lets get away from the hacking stuff. Its not about Russians hacking; its not about playing games with the software; its about machines that were mis-calibrated; its about the fact that we have about a half million absentee ballots in America that were thrown out for highly technical and questionable reasons; its 2.7 million so called provisional ballots when especially African Americans go in and their name is missing from the voter roles and theyre given a provisional ballot and which is then thrown in the dumpster; its about ballots that are supposedly blank but in fact have a mark on them and they need to be reviewed; its about machines that are off by 100th of an inch and dont read a mark on a ballot; its about 90% turnouts in rural trump areas which is just astonishing and unreal; its about blank ballots which may not be blank.
Its a technical process. Forget the hacking stuff, forget the conspiracy stuff, forget Russians, this recount, this review of the ballots and decision about which ballots are being thrown out and disqualified by the tens of thousands swamps trumps plurality in several states. This is the secret, the hidden secret of American democracy, we dont count millions of votes.
Joy -
Could the throwing out of absentee ballots combined with the knocking people off the voter roles and combined with not counting provisional ballots account for the difference (from the exit polls and votes tallied)?
Palast -
Yes. They ask if you vote, but you dont know if your vote counted.
Disqualified ballots is the real purpose of this recount.
Joy -
It's not the Russians, look at the republicans.