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Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
9. You seem to be arguing with phantom people who didn't actually vote for Hillary.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 05:58 PM
Dec 2016

I don't know where they are, but, you know... knock yourself out.

Yes, in terms of actual statements on the stump; both Hillary and Trump essentially said "states should decide" on marijuana. Hillary was more specific, but then Hillary had a comprehensive grasp of the issues while Trump just said oft-random shit that came into his head. Hillary also called for a rescheduling from I to II, which, by the way, wouldn't have done anything to reconcile the conflict between federal and state law. Trump never mentioned scheduling at all. But they both said "it should be up to the states", of course given the fact that Colorado is a fairly crucial EC swing state I question whether any candidate would have done different on the stump this year. Taking the opposite tack sure didn't help Christie in the primaries.

Now, those of us who dug deeper would have seen that at least the Democratic Platform was a bit more committed and specific on the matter, calling for a "reasoned pathway to future legalization", etc. (Language which, of course, was driven entirely by Sanders people on the platform committee.) And certainly anyone with a memory going back more than 8 years would acknowledge the GOP's traditional authoritarianism on these matters.

But Hillary's campaign wasn't out there highlighting a more progressive approach on cannabis. They didn't make it a focus.

The genie is out of the bottle on dope, I think Auggie Dec 2016 #1
My concern is he will usher in the corporate takeover NWCorona Dec 2016 #2
Yeah, that's where I see this going. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2016 #6
Trump Tokes...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #13
The beer and pharmaceutical industries will absolutely love that fucking asshole Sessions mtnsnake Dec 2016 #3
Well, Hillary and Trump were functionally equivalent on the stump, ie "let states decide". Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #4
Nope, people have to be smarter than that, as you can see the end result stevenleser Dec 2016 #7
You seem to be arguing with phantom people who didn't actually vote for Hillary. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #9
Nope, I'm arguing re: people who said there was functionally no difference, like you just did. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #11
I'm not going to play one of these "bad internet arguments" games, Steve. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #12
And I am saying people have to be smarter than that and use history as a guide. stevenleser Dec 2016 #17
I'm all for people being smarter. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #20
Would you acknowledge that maybe DWS was a real problem for our party in Florida? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #5
Nope, people not learning from the past was the issue for our party stevenleser Dec 2016 #8
You're having a conversation with yourself, which bears no resemblance to anything I asked. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #10
I know that is your argument, and once again, anyone thinking that way should have known stevenleser Dec 2016 #16
Who do you think I voted for, Steve? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #18
Why do you insist in thinking this is about you or how I think you voted? This is broader than that. stevenleser Dec 2016 #19
Yes, it's about fighting imaginary battles against "some folks", most of whom aren't even on this Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #21
This entire forum is about that battle and that "DU primary fighting goodness" stevenleser Dec 2016 #22
No, I haven't seen any evidence that it was insufficiently enthused Sanders weed people Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #23
Hillary wasn't perfect on every issue mcar Dec 2016 #14
Yep, and here we are. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #15
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