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2016 Postmortem

zipplewrath

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20. Hate to say, but probably nothing

Reply to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:01 PM

Dec 2016

I'm afraid the votes she needed to get, she wasn't going to get. Trump basically was right. He could shoot someone on Park Avenue and they'd still vote for him. The report might have increased her popular vote margin, by getting more votes in states she already won, or states where it still wouldn't have helped her win anyway. But I suspect in WI, MI, and PA, it wouldn't have changed anything.

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Key factors that led to Trump winning, according to my calculations: [View all] Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 OP

Progressive Puritans Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #1

yes, but I think that's where the Russian hacks/wikileaks really played a role in amplifying their Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #5

i put more into russia hacking/fbi. JI7 Dec 2016 #2

It was her job zipplewrath Dec 2016 #3

but I think overall her campaign did a good job -- not enough obviously, but reasonably good Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #6

She was in trouble from the beginning zipplewrath Dec 2016 #17

Yes, all points well taken. She was kind of stuck. The thing that really hurt though was the polls Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #18

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #4

argh...I hate this! he doesn't game media coverage...the media is game for it! JCanete Dec 2016 #7

yes, that's why I think the media is the number #1 cause for Trump's win Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #14

Well, don't forget Bernie or Busters. LisaL Dec 2016 #8

McConnel withholding information lame54 Dec 2016 #9

yeah-- true. I guess that falls under the Russian hacking category overall Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #13

No way... lame54 Dec 2016 #15

fair enough. I agree he is and I wonder what would have happened if McConnell hadn't have blocked Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #19

Hate to say, but probably nothing zipplewrath Dec 2016 #20

I agree, not to mention that stories of Russian hacking were already out there and being ignored Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #24

Good analysis hueymahl Dec 2016 #10

hmm, yes-- that actually hasn't been mentioned before that I've seen Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #11

"The electorate's general distaste for having one family too involved in the levers of power." LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #30

fixed the numbers, since they added up to 110% before! Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #12

Anyone who's trying to blame just one factor is selling something. n/t Orsino Dec 2016 #16

Sorta zipplewrath Dec 2016 #22

Emails budkin Dec 2016 #21

I think you summed it up nicely mtnsnake Dec 2016 #23

One Word: RUSSIA Corey_Baker08 Dec 2016 #25

Lol. You boys are so cute. Squinch Dec 2016 #26

I'd put the media coverage at 75% at least. unblock Dec 2016 #27

Trump was on the air a lot. If that was not enough to convince people he's a buffoon, racist, bigot Hoyt Dec 2016 #28

99.9% voter suppression and ballot rat f*cking in my estimation ymetca Dec 2016 #29

Russian hacking was the problem... dubyadiprecession Dec 2016 #31

Her lack of a penis? sfwriter Dec 2016 #32