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bravenak

(34,648 posts)
124. You know you can post your OWN ops, right?
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:39 AM
Dec 2016

It's easy and then you can decide what topic to choose. But I understand that it is much easier to complain about what everybody else does than to do one's own thing. Enjoy

Our problem isn't rural white's. It's apathy. When 46% of eligible voters can't be bothered to vote Trust Buster Dec 2016 #1
I see that as a big ass problem too bravenak Dec 2016 #3
Part of that occurred because of the voter suppression that took place still_one Dec 2016 #31
It started long before 2013. Voter turnout has become increasingly abysmal over the past Trust Buster Dec 2016 #105
Think that's one of the main reasons the Rethugs disempowered the new Dem NC Governor MrPurple Dec 2016 #179
It is hard to believe this is really happening here. still_one Dec 2016 #190
For all that, Igel Dec 2016 #231
Among the 14 states which add restrictive voting requirements, Wisconsin, Ohio, still_one Dec 2016 #233
Apapthy for 1000, Alex... *ding ding ding* N/t DeadLetterOffice Dec 2016 #55
Can't be bothered. And also quite simply they just can't. kcr Dec 2016 #168
but they are just fine with white guys getting their shit made in China JI7 Dec 2016 #2
Exactly. The voted for the guy who outsources his products. Nothing we could say would do jack bravenak Dec 2016 #4
Donnie and Ivanka come to mind. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #47
i agree. nt DesertFlower Dec 2016 #56
and they are doing that already . Never a word about the businesses who hire undocumented workers . lunasun Dec 2016 #80
Or buying that stuff at the resulting lower prices treestar Dec 2016 #216
As POTUS said: elleng Dec 2016 #5
Thats nice. I do not always agree with him. bravenak Dec 2016 #11
You can't be serious realmirage Dec 2016 #6
I am not talking about the ones who voted for Hillary bravenak Dec 2016 #8
Then why talk about rural voters like they're a bunch of idiot racists that we can never win over? realmirage Dec 2016 #13
Many of them are? Why act like thats not true and pretend they are all aware and righteous? bravenak Dec 2016 #15
So you're one of those people that lumps whole groups of people together? realmirage Dec 2016 #20
No but facts matter, 67% of Trump voters thought the UE rate went up during Obama term... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #38
I live in rural ass Alaska and know about red states and just how racist rurals can be bravenak Dec 2016 #40
If we write off rural areas, we have to get votes elsewhere yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #83
We can make them up in the suburbs and increase our own turnout bravenak Dec 2016 #84
Very true. In fact he will never get the amount he got this time yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #85
They also believe Donnie won the popular vote. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #49
Because you didn't specify that at all in your OP. You might want to. dionysus Dec 2016 #144
No. Write whatever youwant however you want to. I just do me bravenak Dec 2016 #152
rural voters, again Afromania Dec 2016 #39
We can't. Adrahil Dec 2016 #167
The white rural vote in Arkansas WhiteTara Dec 2016 #75
All those Obama / Trump voters are racists? jfern Dec 2016 #134
"Dear God that's a perfect recipe to make our Party EXTINCT" tecelote Dec 2016 #147
Until rural whites abandon their bigotry and embrace 21st century America, we should ignore them. LonePirate Dec 2016 #7
I think so too bravenak Dec 2016 #9
I don't think that phrase is what you meant sarisataka Dec 2016 #22
I was using it condescendingly but completly understanding the history bravenak Dec 2016 #57
. sarisataka Dec 2016 #63
And they'll ignore us RIGHT BACK and we'll go extinct as a Party. Great strategy realmirage Dec 2016 #14
They have BEEN ignoring us bravenak Dec 2016 #16
Oh? Then how did Obama win twice? realmirage Dec 2016 #17
With minorities, women, and us city folks making up the lion's share of his coalition bravenak Dec 2016 #21
He won by energizing the voters in urban, sub-urban/exurban areas etherealtruth Dec 2016 #34
... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #77
So you're for embracing bigotry and ignorance then? LonePirate Dec 2016 #25
Are you one of those people that lumps whole groups together? Like Trump does? realmirage Dec 2016 #37
Not all rural whites are bigots but a great number, perhaps even a majority of them are. LonePirate Dec 2016 #46
Oh, please! If what you say is true we all would have been in a museum by now. n/t kcr Dec 2016 #170
Yeah, ignoring them was a great strategy this election. intheflow Dec 2016 #171
So you want us to abandon our core values and principles to appease them? LonePirate Dec 2016 #172
Amen! mcar Dec 2016 #174
You don't have to appease them. intheflow Dec 2016 #227
Same way Obama did??? It's a thought!!! n/t Yo_Mama Dec 2016 #10
You think Obama won white folks who think blacks are taking their jobs? bravenak Dec 2016 #12
Exactly. nycbos Dec 2016 #19
LOL bravenak Dec 2016 #65
We could start by asking these people Lonusca Dec 2016 #101
How to get them and keep me is the question. bravenak Dec 2016 #107
That's why I suggested asking them Lonusca Dec 2016 #110
Most of them did not vote for obama bravenak Dec 2016 #112
They did in 2012. nt Lonusca Dec 2016 #139
No. They absolutely did not. bravenak Dec 2016 #140
Interesting take Lonusca Dec 2016 #164
Most likely lack of Democratic turnout rather than actual flipped votes, also I would be... Humanist_Activist Dec 2016 #166
If you read the article Lonusca Dec 2016 #195
That's precisely the problem, but it isn't as high as 25% in most cases, the differences in votes... Humanist_Activist Dec 2016 #210
If thats the case, in WI Lonusca Dec 2016 #220
She lost by a margin of approximately less than 100k in 3 states, it was pretty close to razor thin. Humanist_Activist Dec 2016 #226
Bravenak quit fighting to keep the same strategy we just lost with realmirage Dec 2016 #18
We won millions more votes. Those voters matter just as much as the ones you seem to focus bravenak Dec 2016 #26
I'll take the howard dean approach, you can go with shrinking the tent and become a party dionysus Dec 2016 #145
You do what you gotta do bravenak Dec 2016 #146
Empirically we were cheated out of this election, I'm not going to fight facts uponit7771 Dec 2016 #32
As a 'rural white' myself... Blanks Dec 2016 #23
That's what I see here and I live in the ruralist of the rural states bravenak Dec 2016 #27
+1, "get the control of the radio waves in these small towns. " seems like something that uponit7771 Dec 2016 #29
Air America BREMPRO Dec 2016 #135
Ok, but that was tried ten years ago and failed. Kilgore Dec 2016 #44
If you look at Keith Olberman... Blanks Dec 2016 #59
If Keith can actually hold on to a show and not get fired, Kilgore Dec 2016 #79
Olberman is too over the top... Blanks Dec 2016 #161
Pay attention to when the Prog channels flip. it's usually becuase they were bought out. Raine1967 Dec 2016 #103
Good point. I think you're right. I have heard this before and totally forgot about it. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #208
In my small rural town, 90% of the people who grew up in the town are Republicans incl the Hispanics womanofthehills Dec 2016 #73
I don't think that can be done standingtall Dec 2016 #78
We don't "win" them we talk to them to whittle down the margin... that's about it uponit7771 Dec 2016 #24
Yeppers bravenak Dec 2016 #28
Your idea about the radio waves is good but where do we get the liberal funds... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #30
Maybe rich liberals should chip in to save our democracy bravenak Dec 2016 #33
Yes, for them it would be a drop in the bucket to by rural air time ... seems like something uponit7771 Dec 2016 #35
The big problem Afromania Dec 2016 #45
Well, of course not. We believe they should pay their fair share bravenak Dec 2016 #52
indeed Afromania Dec 2016 #68
Easy. It isn't either/or. EVERYONE needs JOBS. So SHOW UP, talk JOBS, and leave their guns alone! RBInMaine Dec 2016 #36
What jobs? Afromania Dec 2016 #48
What jobs are you going tobring to them? Specifically? bravenak Dec 2016 #54
You are stereotyping as bad as the people you are accusing. I hope you enjoy LOSING. RBInMaine Dec 2016 #41
We all lost Afromania Dec 2016 #50
Did you somehow win while I lost? bravenak Dec 2016 #60
I think many of them live in a fantasy world of... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #42
I think so too bravenak Dec 2016 #51
I am going to agree with others stating that it has to do with turn out .... etherealtruth Dec 2016 #43
Yes. We need to increase turnout among people who are reachable, not waste out energy bravenak Dec 2016 #67
I do not want to be part of a party that panders to this group of people. Merlot Dec 2016 #163
If for any reason we denigrate our base, brer cat Dec 2016 #53
Agreed. n/t DeadLetterOffice Dec 2016 #70
Great answer bravenak Dec 2016 #71
You speak the truth. phylny Dec 2016 #93
but with the Rust belt losing population, it is becoming older and whiter pstokely Dec 2016 #211
Does this make them commies?!?! lisvard2 Dec 2016 #58
Putinistas bravenak Dec 2016 #62
Bwaaaahahahahaha lisvard2 Dec 2016 #66
It's hopeless. Rural Whites will only come back AFTER Trump pushes us into another depression. tenorly Dec 2016 #61
Yep bravenak Dec 2016 #64
Can we stop using "rural whites"... DeadLetterOffice Dec 2016 #69
I wish I could stop using it, but the words I could replace it with would not go over well bravenak Dec 2016 #74
+1000 brer cat Dec 2016 #162
Well said. tenorly Dec 2016 #169
How much of rural America standingtall Dec 2016 #72
Reaching the suburbs would be way easier bravenak Dec 2016 #76
Great point. MarvinGardens Dec 2016 #90
I have been going to rural mid-Missouri to visit the in-laws farm for the last 45 years... NoMoreRepugs Dec 2016 #81
I see it too bravenak Dec 2016 #87
Seems like you have already made up you mind on the matter Joe Turner Dec 2016 #82
One election loss after another? Did obama lose twice and I forgot? bravenak Dec 2016 #86
The democratic party has lost Congress, the majority of governorships, the presidency Joe Turner Dec 2016 #94
Districting in 2010 was fucked up because we lost in midterms bravenak Dec 2016 #97
Actually we are both Complaining Joe Turner Dec 2016 #102
I Always complain about republicans bravenak Dec 2016 #106
Not many white folk think like that Joe Turner Dec 2016 #119
Yes they do. bravenak Dec 2016 #120
+1, the blame dems first crew love to ignore the gerrymandering and act like it doesn't matter mosty uponit7771 Dec 2016 #160
Did you forget about the vast amount of elected office that isn't the dionysus Dec 2016 #148
No. But election after election seems hyperbolic since obama won four tears ago bravenak Dec 2016 #150
The easiest explanation is that Asians, black and Hispanics tend to be located in the population cen yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #88
That's right, gurl! bravenak Dec 2016 #91
I love that song!! yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #92
They should really make a full version bravenak Dec 2016 #95
Did you watch the cross over shows? yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #96
Not yet, I'm almost done with hers bravenak Dec 2016 #98
I LOVE LUKE CAGE!! I hope they make a second Season!!! yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #100
They BETTER make season two!! bravenak Dec 2016 #108
uhuh! yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #115
Perfect team!!! I want babies!! bravenak Dec 2016 #116
They will be bullet proof yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #117
And maybe FLY!!! Oh shit!!! bravenak Dec 2016 #118
I bet you could find issues featuring Danielle Cage yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #121
Maybe at the boscos bravenak Dec 2016 #123
cool!!.. yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #125
I just watched suicide squad bravenak Dec 2016 #126
awesome, have you seen Deadpool yet? yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #127
Yep. Saw it a few weeks ago bravenak Dec 2016 #128
I loved Deadpool yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #130
Love Luke Cage. Love Jessica Jones. mcar Dec 2016 #175
I was so glad I was told to watch those bravenak Dec 2016 #181
Me too mcar Dec 2016 #182
THANK YOU!!!!!!!! nt asuhornets Dec 2016 #89
More than two choices. MarvinGardens Dec 2016 #99
How to get the rural whites I described in my op while maintaining our base was my question bravenak Dec 2016 #111
Not every rural white thinks a minority has stolen or unfairly taken dionysus Dec 2016 #151
Many of them do. Check the polls and face reality bravenak Dec 2016 #153
We don't because they can't be reached. duffyduff Dec 2016 #104
True bravenak Dec 2016 #114
Easy. Stop assuming those things are mutually exclusive. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #109
It actually says that a MAJORITY of them believe that bravenak Dec 2016 #113
No. The article doesn't say that. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #158
More of this? melman Dec 2016 #122
You know you can post your OWN ops, right? bravenak Dec 2016 #124
the best cure is to do what Obama did DonCoquixote Dec 2016 #129
I am a rural, white voter. Lifelong Protester Dec 2016 #131
I was talking about the non hillary voters bravenak Dec 2016 #132
I'm old enough to remember a time when the Democratic Party did appeal... spin Dec 2016 #133
I think he will b a disaster bravenak Dec 2016 #136
I agree. However I have been proven wrong about Trump before. ... spin Dec 2016 #137
Me too. This is the worst political experience of my life. bravenak Dec 2016 #138
that final quote... JustinL Dec 2016 #141
We damn sure did!! Opportunity was not knocking at our doors, we had to find it. bravenak Dec 2016 #142
I would assume it would involve educating people on the issues. You have also dionysus Dec 2016 #143
Educate them then. bravenak Dec 2016 #149
Most likely because.. AllenJordan Dec 2016 #154
Their neighborhoods filling with foreigners? Guess folks shoulda thought about that when they bravenak Dec 2016 #156
Rural neighborhoods are "filling up with foreigners"? What do you mean. Welcome to du uppityperson Dec 2016 #165
Just going by what i hear.. AllenJordan Dec 2016 #177
You live in urban area but have heard and noticed rural areas being filled with foreigners? uppityperson Dec 2016 #184
Think about how the native americans, the first nations people felt when white folks show up bravenak Dec 2016 #185
I find it interesting that no one ever asks about the people that hire illegals... tenderfoot Dec 2016 #194
Short answer?... We don't need to reach D or D-leaning rural whites. PotatoChip Dec 2016 #155
I pretty much agree bravenak Dec 2016 #157
Obama is probably our best example of how. aikoaiko Dec 2016 #159
People can move to where the jobs are mcar Dec 2016 #173
There's a lot of assumptions in this idea. DeadLetterOffice Dec 2016 #178
Yep. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #189
The Democratic Party isnt going to back down from defending minority rights Gothmog Dec 2016 #176
We won't ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #180
I know bravenak Dec 2016 #188
It's crazy town ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #196
Fucking ridiculous bravenak Dec 2016 #198
If we reach out to rural whites where is our "base" going to go? jalan48 Dec 2016 #183
I personally will not sit here and watch pandering. I just wont bother. I am just as important as bravenak Dec 2016 #186
Boycott the Democratic Party then? jalan48 Dec 2016 #187
I will Stay the fuck in my place that they put me in. Ignore me I ignore you. It is what it is. bravenak Dec 2016 #191
OK- I don't see how reaching out to a group negates your issues. jalan48 Dec 2016 #192
Look to the suburbs. That where you will find the votes bravenak Dec 2016 #197
It will be interesting to see what strategy the Party adopts in the next few years. jalan48 Dec 2016 #203
You know what Bravenek? ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #205
I'm sick too. I knew this but it is ugly bravenak Dec 2016 #206
Yeah it is ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #207
Curious as to why you always seem to use poor grammar when you're upset. cwydro Dec 2016 #209
Because I am ghetto bravenak Dec 2016 #213
It's not as hard as some would like to believe. Exilednight Dec 2016 #193
They eschew education. They hate elitist college graduates bravenak Dec 2016 #199
The alternative: revitalize their urban centers and move there. Then we'll have the votes for JudyM Dec 2016 #200
I really like this idea bravenak Dec 2016 #201
They're less likely to move than we are, though. And even if they move they still have the Electora JudyM Dec 2016 #202
Yep. You're right bravenak Dec 2016 #204
man it's tempting and maybe I should make that sacrifice forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #221
Oh shit, no don't move! bravenak Dec 2016 #224
By not dividing people into groups such as "rural whites" Coyotl Dec 2016 #212
We are not one people. Never have been. bravenak Dec 2016 #214
Says trump and the white nationalists. Coyotl Dec 2016 #217
Says history and the constitution as originally written bravenak Dec 2016 #218
I actually would love to drop identity politics forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #222
Seriously bravenak Dec 2016 #225
yeah I don't think so treestar Dec 2016 #215
We cannot. I think they have to get a full dose of Trump before they even consider changing bravenak Dec 2016 #219
My worst fear is that Trump "succeeds" forjusticethunders Dec 2016 #223
How about stop trying to ban the most popular guns/magazines? That is a huge turnoff where I live. benEzra Dec 2016 #228
I live in ALASKA bravenak Dec 2016 #229
It's not people like you who are pushing to enact crap like the NY SAFE Act. benEzra Dec 2016 #230
To me, handguns are the most dangerous bravenak Dec 2016 #232
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