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Response to Gothmog (Reply #128)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 01:16 PM

142. Sanders was absolutely right, he needed to run as a Democrat

And you can thank him for that too because if he hadn't she would have lost by much much worse had he pulled a Nadar.

If he had not run, single payer would not have even been mentioned. $15 minimum wage or free college tuition. Neither the message that the MSM will never champion... the widening gap between the rich and the poor and what that does to the economy. Hillary would not have shifted much at all if he had not been so popular. And isn't it funny, no one is saying she lost because she was too left even after she adopted some of Bernie's platform.

Too many Democrat supporters have been like the frogs sitting in a pot of water as it slowly heats up. It has been slowly changing from a workers, middle class, party to a republican lite party. They have taken over the spot that Republicans occupied 30 years ago. The D leadership since Clinton #1 worked to woo the same elite class as the GOP had traditionally had a lock on. And they brought their members along for the ride. The whole, fighting from the inside theory, only it didn't work. They either got too comfortable and/or the GOP just turned up the heat in their own pot until their voters brains were fried and they'd vote for anyone. Meanwhile it split Democrats into confusion about what or to who exactly the Democrats catered to.

When some frog that has traditional FDR type Democratic party values jumps into the pot he causes a splash. He woke up many Democrats to have hope that the party could still right itself, no pun intended. He was acting more Democratic, than every other candidate. Who cares if he had to use the Democratic party in order to run a truly Democratic campaign based on creating a fairer more egalitarian society for everyone?

And that goal, which he calls "our revolution" is not just a primary fight, it should be a greater fight everyone with those traditional Democratic party values wants to continue fighting. We can't make the same mistake as the Republicans where the party letter is put ahead of the country. This is something some of you don't understand. Its his ideas that are important, which aren't even his own, they are just some of the better ones that exist in other countries. Like that the richest nation on the planet should be able to afford to have universal healthcare for its citizens if every other western democracy, and others as well, can afford it.

I pray that he continues and uses the media capital has gained to continue to fight for these values and against Trump. That he shows there is a better alternative to fascism. The other frogs have gotten too warm and comfortable and have forgotten why they jumped into the pot in the first place. He's a different kind of frog that remains cool and he will hopefully encourage more Democratic reps to understand the best most successful way forward.

I thank god for Bernie coming along, one small gleam of a silver lining in the coming ominous year.

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