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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why President Obama isn't caving [View all]Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)19. Is this satire?
He offered two different cuts (raising the age, chained CPI). Maybe it's not caving if that's what he wants. When is he going to speak in public AGAINST ANY CUTS? When is he going to pardon Don Siegelmann, and investigate Rove for a political prosecution? When is he going to come out in favor of some gun control, and against Wayne LaPierre?
Just what we need, more fantasy. At least it's from a right-wing rag.
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"That doesn’t mean Obama won’t eventually compromise ..." Agreed. It doesn't mean that at all.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#2
He is Wall Steet! All his financial guys came from there, and will go back there when their time is
Dustlawyer
Dec 2012
#103
That's *your* interpretation: caving. It's also the Purist-Ideologues' claim, but not
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#130
Let's remember and be clear: if we do NOTHING, there will be a 22% CUT in 2035. Period.
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#132
I think you're peeing into the wind. Almost eveyone thinks he's caving and they should voice it
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#88
You're not making any difference and even more, are part of the problem. Me thinks troll.
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#124
Yup. Some would say that. Over and over again. Even though the cuts have yet to happen, and ...
11 Bravo
Dec 2012
#8
Manny ... Is Obama going to cave and make a deal which cuts SS by the end of the year?" Yes / No.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#109
Really? There Are Currently Negotiatons Discussing SS Cuts? I Must Have Missed That, Please Provide
Skraxx
Dec 2012
#116
If I'm willing to let you make me an offer for my mint condition special edition babe ruth
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#65
Manny ... Is Obama going to cave and make a deal which cuts SS by the end of the year?" Yes / No.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#100
Manny ... Is Obama going to cave and make a deal which cuts SS by the end of the year?" Yes / No.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#108
If anyone touches SS, be they Dem or Rep, that party will not win an election for decades.
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#92
Or, he's daring them to say what the GOP does not really want to say out loud.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#101
If I had a dollar for all the "wrong" prognostications by that one, I could fix the deficit.
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#54
Well, "Emo Progs" like me, Bernie Sanders, the Congressional Progressive
MannyGoldstein
Dec 2012
#74
So Obama stands his ground, we go over the cliff, and you still claim he caved.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#102
He's not caving because he won and can't run again. He owes the repubs nothing.
craigmatic
Dec 2012
#5
I don't accept that excuse. SS above all things should be non-negotiable. Voluntarily offering it up
MotherPetrie
Dec 2012
#22
Just saying that there are going to be some concessions made that we aren't all going to be happy w/
Proud Liberal Dem
Dec 2012
#25
The "fiscal cliff" is a completely GOP fabricated "crisis". So what if nothing is done,
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#93
I do not except that excuse either. Social Security is not and never was a part of the debt or the
RC
Dec 2012
#80
President Obama has worked hard to meet Republicans halfway (maybe even more)
Proud Liberal Dem
Dec 2012
#15
I don't think that they will- until they are so far in the minority that they don't even matter
Proud Liberal Dem
Dec 2012
#81
The President has stated that Social Security is in NO WAY responsible for the Deficit,
bvar22
Dec 2012
#139
My understanding is HR4310 was just passed last week, which doesn't cut anything.....
dmosh42
Dec 2012
#34
Sorry, cutting old folks safety net, while saving Big War, is a cave, IMHO.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#37
YES, he is offering up cuts to social security to the republicans in the negotiations,
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#96
Where Are These Cuts? They've Happened? Or They Are Part of Some Deal? Please, Show Them To Me
Skraxx
Dec 2012
#97
They are on the table, they are the goal. The other goal is defending the Big War budget....
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#68
He Is? Really? Pray Tell, I Must Have Missed Some Deal That Was Made, Please Fill Me In On All The
Skraxx
Dec 2012
#99
They are redefining the meaning of "cave" now that they realize that Obama is not going
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#110
And, if I allow you to make a bid for my babe ruth rookie card, clearly I want to give it to you.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#115
The OP is "Obama isn't caving". The OP is not talking about a final deal, but the process.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#121