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calimary

(81,181 posts)
24. California. I don't know the answer to that.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 03:27 PM
Aug 2013

But I do know we had to go to Cigna to get insurance for my husband and our son. Our daughter's covered under mine, but Anthem refused the rest of our family because my guy and our boy had what can be considered pre-existing conditions. I couldn't get them covered under my policy for love nor money. I looked everywhere. Started checking other companies. We finally got them covered under Cigna last October. I was terrified of a romney presidency - in which the Affordable Care Act would surely be decimated, and Mr. Bain Capital would let all his sharky, snaky, fellow vultures and vampires and hyenas and other economic opportunistic infections feed on it til its carcass was picked to death.

I figured that the insurance industry was probably gonna hedge its bets, and if I had ANY shot at all at getting my men covered, I had to try and do it before the election. I figured somebody in that corporate Hell MIGHT still be amenable to covering some people - just in case Obama did pull out a win, even though the accelerating drumbeat sure made it look as though romney was gonna steal it. I had hoped I'd still have at least SOME chance of getting coverage before the election, because afterwards, if romney had won, there'd absolutely be NO chance at all.

It would have been a PR nightmare to have to swim through upstream - against a profoundly adverse current. There would have been all kinds of dancing in the endzone - "SEE???? America walks with US!!! SEE, WE were right, NOBODY out there REALLLLLLY wants affordable coverage or help or easier access. Laissez-faire WORKS!!! No laws! No regulations! Free market-free market! Obama and the lefties REPUDIATED!!! SEE??? There's yer proof! Right there in the ballot boxes of America! The voters have spoken! Nobody wants those "do-gooders" and their give-away-free-stuff ideas to all their moocher friends, and we've now proven it - the people have spoken and they're on OUR side, America has spoken and WE won and they all want it OUR way, and FUCK YOU, you damn Commies and Socialists! Leave it to the Free Market! Freedom-freedom! You were WRONG and WE WERE RIGHT!!! HA-HA-HA!!! GO EAT SHIT!!! GET OVER IT!!!!!" And blah-blah-blah. You KNOW it would have been that way. You KNOW it would have been EXACTLY that way! Every media outlet in America would have been using the Pox Noise script. Bad behavior just reinforced again and again and again. That would have been their message from then on, while romney and his smug haughty little empress would have been wiping their expensive shoes on our faces while at the same time telling us how wonderful and compassionate and humanitarian and noble and entitled to all this that they were. You KNOW it would have played out EXACTLY that way. Those bastards would have RUN with this message. They were well-prepared to do just that. After all, even romney himself didn't even bother to write a concession speech. And they had the romney transition team and the romney's-on-his-way-to-the-White-House website all up and completed and ready to go.

There's a shitload of dumping on Obama going on here, seemingly throughout DU. For many reasons. But you will not find me there. I just CANNOT get my mind off the whole nightmare notion of what could have been, and how big a bullet we dodged. CRIMINY, people! Those who are so quick to condemn, thinking it's all so shitty now, and he's blown this and he's fucked up that and blah-blah-blah - just stop and think for a moment how "marvelous" it'd be now if romney had won. That'd be me over in some corner mumbling "well, are you happy NOW?"

A couple of months ago, I got a letter from Anthem Blue Cross with a $90 check in it. calimary Aug 2013 #1
The GOP simply MUST kill Obamacare before it kicks in and the AMerican people start to experience CTyankee Aug 2013 #8
That would certainly be my preference. calimary Aug 2013 #19
I agree 100% but first we have to make universal health care a "desirable" thing, like SS and CTyankee Aug 2013 #20
Can I ask what state you are in? truedelphi Aug 2013 #23
California. I don't know the answer to that. calimary Aug 2013 #24
The Republicans Plan is to DELAY Obamacare's implementation... BlueDemKev Aug 2013 #21
And one might ask ....why is a subsidy necessary? peace13 Aug 2013 #2
Hopefully we are headed toward something like here in Korea davidpdx Aug 2013 #6
"Republicans dislike this law, since it's a major transfer of income from the rich to the non rich" great white snark Aug 2013 #3
This is the individual market which is so expensive normal people dkf Aug 2013 #4
Normal people?????? pnwmom Aug 2013 #13
Wonder if all those rethugs who say they dislike Obama care will give back the money bigdarryl Aug 2013 #5
How is it a wealth transfer from Rich to non-rich? PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #7
Because a lot of people get something along the way. Igel Aug 2013 #15
"If" it is a wealth transfer it is from tax payers to insurance companies, nothing more. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #16
You are ignoring the fact that people get insurance as part of that process. riqster Aug 2013 #26
Why not tax rich people XemaSab Aug 2013 #9
And that leaves the individual to pay JayhawkSD Aug 2013 #10
Doubtful. JTFrog Aug 2013 #11
The other poster spoke of individuals, which includes those of us whose families are Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #12
The example given in the OP was for a family plan. JTFrog Aug 2013 #14
Don't talk down to others and you won't get it in return. I am so sick of the Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #17
I think you should rein it in a little. JTFrog Aug 2013 #18
it should be a real subsidy and not a tax credit Marrah_G Aug 2013 #22
It's completely free medicaid at the income level that other person posted. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #27
Bottom line: Wait and see KennedyBrothers Aug 2013 #25
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