2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Elizabeth Warren [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)isn't because of that, it's because he was the NY delegation leader and her "senior" when she was in the Senate.
Granholm may be too corporate for YOUR tastes, but she is the darling of the rank-and-file Democratic voters. They would love to see her in a cabinet position.
No one is taking away your "choice." Stop whining. Playing the victim never cuts it. If you really think you can convince Elizabeth Warren to run, knock yourself out. However, when they have video of her laughing, mocking the question, and saying "No, no, no, no, no" and then, when asked "Are you sure?" she repeats it and adds another no or two, I am telling you, she's sure. When her aides make it very clear that she's not going there, she's sure. Here's what you aren't grasping: she has written herself out of the process--decisively. No does mean no, and stop acting like it doesn't when it is said a half dozen times inside of two months.
I think it is amusing in the extreme that my very smart senator is touted as an independent leader, yet these very same people (who have never seen her on the campaign trail) are --without stopping to take a breath--at the very same time treating her like an addled, confused, naive and helpless idiot who doesn't know her own mind when it comes to running for this particular office. She knows her own mind. You need to respect her decision.
Frankly, we need to win in 2016. The most formidable candidate is HRC. I don't see any others who can muster the enthusiasm or the GOTV that she can. I don't know any that have the 50 State roots that she has. She's got the experience, the organization and the fund raising capability, and she is formidable because she has worked for an entire lifetime to be so.
EW, aside from lacking the experience and the network, does not have the desire. Without that, nothing's happening. You can yell at me all day, disparage those like Granholm who have come out for HRC, and all that doesn't change the essential bottom line--and that bottom line is NO means NO.