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PatrickforO

(14,561 posts)
35. A thoughtful post
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 10:05 AM
Apr 2014

My own belief is that Obama is very much a populist - personally. He clearly has the intellect to understand the corporate cancer that has all but made our society into an oligarchy.

But, as the first black president, he has been very careful to be middle of the road, and I believe he understands quite well the unspoken rule the oligarchs have imposed on American presidents. Get too far left, advocate the people a bit too much, attempt to put policies in place that help the people at the expense of corporate profits, start taking away tax loopholes - well all that isn't tolerated. Not at all. Consider Jack, Martin and Bobby. It just isn't tolerated.

He did give us a clue, though, when he told us that we are the change we've been looking for. It is only through social unrest that the pendulum can be swung back toward economic and social justice, and then resistance from the oligarchs is strong and unrelenting.

Obama has sadly towed the corporate line with his drone attack policies, and in allowing the NSA to become the bloated overreaching monster it is. However, because of this, and because the profits from keeping the nation on a war footing have kept flowing, Obama is allowed to 'thunder' about the middle class, student debt and raising the minimum wage from the bully pulpit. Will those things do some good? Sure. But GE, Wells Fargo, Paccar, Mattel and dozens of other major corporations still aren't paying any US income tax and the loophole encouraging stratospheric executive 'performance' bonuses is still in place.

There's still plenty of our tax money for war and 'national security' but very little for our benefit. Free college? Universal healthcare? A guaranteed living wage instead of a minimum wage? Those won't happen without lots of suffering on the part of people who have the courage to demand them. No one politician has the power to put them in place.

That is an interesting scenario... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2014 #1
Warren will be 75 in 2024 Warpy Apr 2014 #2
For now, yes... Rosco T. Apr 2014 #3
Not to mention winning 2024 after holding the Presidency for 4 terms is rather unlikely karynnj Apr 2014 #13
Clinton gave an (ill executed) nationally televised speech at the convention in 1988 Hippo_Tron May 2014 #53
Agree - I should have worded things better as you are completely correct karynnj May 2014 #58
Do you think the party would run two women on the ticket? femmocrat Apr 2014 #4
No. 840high Apr 2014 #9
Warren has about the same "exposure" that Obama had in 2008. That said, Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #5
Warren hasn't had a speech like Obama's Red State/Blue state one... Rosco T. Apr 2014 #7
Well, there was that speech at the Democratic National Convention. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #8
Warren had 52% of respondents able to rate her in a March poll Hippo_Tron May 2014 #54
Not really, Obama was the keynote speaker in 2004. joshcryer Apr 2014 #10
I agree that Hillary Clinton is the most likely nominee, and her VP will be a Latino. nt Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #24
And this is why she will lose question everything Apr 2014 #25
Failing to move agressively to fight for Democrtas inthe 2010 eleciton was a huge error. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #27
A thoughtful post PatrickforO Apr 2014 #35
Interesting points. And.. question everything Apr 2014 #40
Obama didnt really have the exposure to beat the shoe in Hillary either DJ13 Apr 2014 #6
Shoo-in (not shoe in) juajen May 2014 #47
After 8 years of HRC, it'll be WHAT DEMOCRATIC PARTY? We'll have one huge PRO-Corporate Party, blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #11
Sadly, we have that already. PatrickforO Apr 2014 #36
And exactly how much exposure did Bill Clinton, Obama rocktivity Apr 2014 #12
A 75 year old running for President? former9thward Apr 2014 #14
Then so much for Bernie Sanders in 2016, too... (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2014 #22
Unfortunately, Yes. former9thward Apr 2014 #23
Mrs.Warren is on the path to become one of our greatest Senator/Congress person of all time. Sunlei Apr 2014 #15
exactly grasswire Apr 2014 #16
There is a perfect place for her juajen May 2014 #48
Are you implying that Hillary wears more revealing outfits? Kablooie Apr 2014 #17
Well, there was that brouhaha about Hillary's cleavage in 2007. Beacool Apr 2014 #31
Interesting idea customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #18
Clinton, if nominated, will pick a male Latino running mate, Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #29
Interesting customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #32
Only fourteen Vice Presidents went on to become Presidents. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #39
True customerserviceguy Apr 2014 #41
And it will likely be Julian Castro - TBF Apr 2014 #43
I think you are right. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #44
Latina women in Texas TBF Apr 2014 #45
I very much doubt this Proud Public Servant May 2014 #52
Lincoln had a lot less 'exposure', and her vision and ideas have attracted much following... dmosh42 Apr 2014 #19
I wouldn't want to predict what will happen in two years time - hedgehog Apr 2014 #20
Making Warren VP is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard! bornskeptic Apr 2014 #21
She still has 2 years to get exposure Politicalboi Apr 2014 #26
Do you seriouly believe Obama woke up one day in 2007 and decided to run for President? brooklynite Apr 2014 #33
I think it was Pres.Os destiny, his entire life's path led to the Presidency (s) Sunlei Apr 2014 #37
She just released a campaign-style book, I'd call that laying groundwork for a possible run Hippo_Tron May 2014 #55
...and she acknowledged signing a letter asking Hillary to run. brooklynite May 2014 #57
No way in hell you're gonna elect a ticket consisting of Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #28
More to the point, I think DFW Apr 2014 #30
This tabbycat31 Apr 2014 #38
If Warren did Clinton's bidding for 8 years, how much DU support would she have left? brooklynite Apr 2014 #34
I could vote for Hillary - and enthusiastically TBF Apr 2014 #42
Obama came out of nowhere. She will be fine. Ash_F Apr 2014 #46
I can't say you are wrong ChangeUp106 May 2014 #49
Exposure doesnt matter. Republicans dont have the electoral math to win XiaomuWave May 2014 #50
well since she indicated she isn't running, and is supporting Hillary, it is kind of a moot point lostincalifornia May 2014 #51
About half of respondents were able to rate her in a March poll Hippo_Tron May 2014 #56
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