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HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
5. It depends, I guess.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:49 AM
Dec 2014

If Teapartiers want him, all laws, rules, customs, and history will be fried, tied, lied, and broken to achieve their goal. If not, he won't get past first base. Expect to see some astounding hypocrisy from the right!

For those of us who are interested in upholding laws, we need to see that all conditions were met whereby a child born of an American parent while abroad were met. Cruz's father was a Cuban citizen at the time of Teddie's birth and it was Teddie's mother who was the US citizen living in Canada. Citizenship was never a valid issue for President Obama as he was born in Hawaii and had citizenship by virtue of birth in an American state.

Here's the website that contains the requirements for securing US citizenship if born abroad: http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/abroad/events-and-records/birth.html It's a State Department website so I think we can count on the accuracy of the statement of requirements. I am particularly interested in this: "Parents of a child born abroad to a U.S. citizen or citizens should apply for a CRBA and/or a U.S. passport for the child as soon as possible. Failure to promptly document a child who meets the statutory requirements for acquiring U.S. citizenship at birth may cause problems for the parents and the child when attempting to establish the child’s U.S. citizenship and eligibility for the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship..."

Oh, and about that renunciation -- It isn't just a matter of SAYING he renounces his Canadian citizenship, there are DOCUMENTS required to affect the renunciation which need to be filed with and approved by the Canadian government. At the very least, we need to see the long-form documents, don't ya think?

How can Cruz run for president? [View all] ALBliberal Dec 2014 OP
He was NOT born in the United States onecaliberal Dec 2014 #1
He can't run, period Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2014 #3
Yes, he can. leftofcool Dec 2014 #12
Yeah, well I want to see his Mother's LONG-FORM Birth Certificate! 66 dmhlt Dec 2014 #13
Because being as big an idiot as, say, Donald Trump, is something you aspire to? onenote Dec 2014 #18
You have a prodoundly dismal sense of humor, don't you? 66 dmhlt Dec 2014 #42
Kind of a grey area, though he'd probably get away with it. DFW Dec 2014 #21
Not certain if he's eligible or not, but ultimately, it works out to IOKIYAR . . . Journeyman Dec 2014 #2
After Cruz's latest stunt I think the pukes are mad as hell and won't be so fast to forgive him. CTyankee Dec 2014 #43
Video of that segment is on the cnbc webpage under "recent videos" It is titled okaawhatever Dec 2014 #50
same way mclame and george rmoney (mitt's father) were able to. unblock Dec 2014 #4
I wouldn't put McCain in that group Reter Dec 2014 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #37
on a u.s. military base *in panama*, not in the u.s. unblock Dec 2014 #39
Then what about being on vacation in France when your mom gives birth? Reter Dec 2014 #45
you can be an automatic citizen from birth if born abroad to a u.s. parent, but unblock Dec 2014 #46
It is definitely archaic, but: DFW Dec 2014 #22
Which means all the bullshit they gave to Obama makes the tea bag idiots even bigger idiots LynneSin Dec 2014 #26
you give the birther crap too much credit. it was always just to remind people that obama's black. unblock Dec 2014 #38
It depends, I guess. HeiressofBickworth Dec 2014 #5
His mother was born in Delaware, so... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #6
What does that have to do with anything? MiniMe Dec 2014 #8
One of his parents is a US citizen-- that makes him one, too... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #9
Just trying to figure out what you were getting at with the goose and gander reference MiniMe Dec 2014 #10
Oh, that-- just about the bullshit over Obama being born in Kenya... TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #11
Not automatically, it doesn't DFW Dec 2014 #23
What goose would that be? Obama was born in HI onecaliberal Dec 2014 #15
So? There was still a huge ridiculous discussion about it. TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #17
By republicans. Not people living in reality. onecaliberal Dec 2014 #31
Yeah. I guess the only difference in the two situations is one person looks white and the other... madinmaryland Dec 2014 #48
he should run really fast olddots Dec 2014 #7
I hope he gets the R nomination ..if only to see the LeftinOH Dec 2014 #16
technically, Cheney was not qualified to become vp, either. nt grasswire Dec 2014 #19
Yeah. Cheney is from planet Warrrrblegarrrrble, which is not part of the US. I want to see madinmaryland Dec 2014 #49
I can see being born on a military base ALBliberal Dec 2014 #20
Panama Canal Zone, actually DFW Dec 2014 #24
Cruz got a U.S. passport at age 14, IIRC. This situation was all hashed out back Nay Dec 2014 #32
One part is definitely weird there DFW Dec 2014 #34
That is certainly true. Per the St Dept., parents are supposed to apply for Nay Dec 2014 #35
That's what they told me, too DFW Dec 2014 #40
Personally I think the law is stupid. If someone spent most of their life being raised in the USA.. LynneSin Dec 2014 #27
Bingo ALBliberal Dec 2014 #33
Hooray! Now Dems can be "birthers" too! hughee99 Dec 2014 #25
I don't think any of us are birthers. It is more about the Hypocrisy LynneSin Dec 2014 #28
If Dems start in on this, they'll likely be enough hughee99 Dec 2014 #30
Since Cruz had Canadian citizenship through a Canadian birth and a Nay Dec 2014 #36
Just to clarify, I don't have an issue with people asking the question, because hughee99 Dec 2014 #41
No problem. I wasn't trying to come down on you hard or anything. And you're Nay Dec 2014 #44
He was entitled to US citizenship at birth jberryhill Dec 2014 #51
He can't. Fearless Dec 2014 #29
Actually rtracey Dec 2014 #47
Yes, you are. Cleita Dec 2014 #52
American-born Obama is a foreigner but repukes like Cruz and Schwarzengger are not!!! Skittles Dec 2014 #53
The guy makes my head hurt. He cannot run for President. MatthewStLouis Dec 2014 #54
cruz is bad news tosoris Dec 2014 #55
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