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Liberal_Stalwart71

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48. I agree with you 100%. And despite the fact that she is so brilliant,
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 03:24 PM
Apr 2015

aware, etc., she still comes off as pretentious, calculating, and self-righteous. People don't like Hillary Clinton--they've only forgotten that they don't and never truly did. It's hard for a woman; we are not held to the same standards as men. It really sucks, but it's the truth.

As for Hillary's current campaign, in my view, not only does she still have work to do to shed this image of her, she truly needs to make amends for her campaign's resort to racist dog whistles back in 2008. Many black Americans haven't totally forgiven her, her husband, and their surrogates for the scorched earth campaign they ran back then. She can't come off as snide or condescending towards the black community. She really needs to own up to that and make a sincere attempt to repair that damage.

A dose of candor and humility will do her some good.

While the majority of black people do like the Clintons and appreciate what Bill Clinton's presidency did for the country, there are still scars from 2008.

I am in the minority. I do not care for the Clintons at all. Their ideology; their policies; their calculated approaches to politics; their insincerity...the fact that they are close friends to the Bushes and the McCains just doesn't sit well with me at all.

However, if Hillary Clinton is the nominee, I will support her and I will obviously vote for her--unless she does something unforgiveable.

They really do hate Hillary over at Salon, eh? leftofcool Apr 2015 #1
She really hasn't mastered the whole "optics" thing bigworld Apr 2015 #2
I might pay more attention if this hadn't been the 6th hit piece on Hillary coming from Salon. leftofcool Apr 2015 #4
And yet one of very many from this poster Sheepshank Apr 2015 #57
I think you hit it on the head. cilla4progress Apr 2015 #27
If she could get Eliz. Warren to do her speeches, that would help a lot! Seriously, people appalachiablue Apr 2015 #31
I agree with you 100%. And despite the fact that she is so brilliant, Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #48
Salon can go piss on itself. RBInMaine Apr 2015 #3
Yep! leftofcool Apr 2015 #5
This......... Beacool Apr 2015 #33
You and I may not agree on much when it comes to Hillary Clinton... Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #49
I won't argue that she needs to earn support. Beacool Apr 2015 #50
What disappoints me is ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #52
Yep, she could never win in their eyes, no matter what she says. Beacool Apr 2015 #53
I agree, that article was extremely bias. musicblind Apr 2015 #40
I don't know how she will not appear to be part of the 1% Sienna86 Apr 2015 #6
from Robert Reich.... OKNancy Apr 2015 #8
There you go... Blanks Apr 2015 #14
Which is silly - the Roosevelts were born to great wealth and culture that said they had to karynnj Apr 2015 #38
I suppose if one struggles hard enough... Blanks Apr 2015 #44
I agree completely -- and I did NOT mean it as a negative karynnj Apr 2015 #45
My apologies. I confuse easily. eom Blanks Apr 2015 #46
I agree! The attacks on the Kennedys and the Roosevelts... Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #51
She won't appear not to be a part of the 1% musicblind Apr 2015 #41
Bill Curry - Nadarite OKNancy Apr 2015 #7
you do realize he spent years in electoral politics, right? cali Apr 2015 #10
yes, won a state senate seat, then lost OKNancy Apr 2015 #12
OK, Salon hates Hillary, but how about the points made? cali Apr 2015 #9
from what I have read... OKNancy Apr 2015 #15
She's running an Iowa campaign because that's how she lost the race last time. Arkana Apr 2015 #47
It's critical that she be seen as sincere. If she can fake that, she's got it made. Scuba Apr 2015 #11
Nothing is worse than faked sincerity though. Fearless Apr 2015 #18
I see what you did there. cilla4progress Apr 2015 #28
I'm hearing all about how she is running this campaign differently hedgehog Apr 2015 #13
I'm not sure her announcement of her candidacy via video is the best way to go but wth do I know..nt monmouth4 Apr 2015 #16
I agree. She doesn't get the average American Fearless Apr 2015 #17
Because you have spent many hours talking one on one with her Persondem Apr 2015 #23
Because she had shown herself to be out of touch. Fearless Apr 2015 #37
Riiiiight, because you say so it must be so. Persondem Apr 2015 #54
The aura of natural populism - that was her husband's greatest strength. leveymg Apr 2015 #30
I think low key launch is fine. DCBob Apr 2015 #19
I want to hear what she stands for hollowdweller Apr 2015 #20
Though a HRC candidacy and even presidency doesn't phase me, I don't like this DFW Apr 2015 #21
Because in part of a video they haven't seen yet means HRC is running a losing campaign? Persondem Apr 2015 #22
For me Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2015 #24
The author DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #25
I will be proud to vote for the first WOMAN president, US is way behind on gender and leadership NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #26
If she used some of her own political capital to support Obama's Iran talks, but that isn't in her. leveymg Apr 2015 #29
I dont think i'll ever pontificate on or sing the praises of a political candidate or slam another CentralMass Apr 2015 #32
what does she talk about? quadrature Apr 2015 #34
She talks about continuing the policies of Obama. musicblind Apr 2015 #42
#FACEPLANT2 AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #35
That article is so full of shit, I don't even know where to start. NYC Liberal Apr 2015 #36
Well Bill Curry looks like an idiot after today. joshcryer Apr 2015 #39
She's a bad campaigner DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #43
Hilary meadow Apr 2015 #55
She doesn't really have a great record in that area DefenseLawyer Apr 2015 #56
So my question is Dan Apr 2015 #58
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