2016 Postmortem

djean111

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6. Because if we say Clinton, someone might think we are talking about Bill.

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 12:06 PM

Apr 2015

We refer to Elizabeth Warren as Warren, and use "Liz" about as much as we use 'Bernie". In fact, I think we say Bernie a lot more than "Sanders". I do not think this is a sexist thing, if that is what you are getting at.

If Hillary was not married to a very well-known ex-president, we would likely refer to her as Clinton. We refer to Carly Fiorina as Fiorina, we refer to Michelle Bachmann as Bachmann. We refer to Bush as Jeb, a LOT, to differentiate from his brother. As far as Cruz and Walker are concerned, there are lots of other Teds, and Walker is the only Walker running. His first name is as common as his last name, is all.

And I think that if Ms. Clinton did not want to take advantage of her name recognition, she would have asked that a money-raising group be called "Ready for Clinton". And her logo would be a "C" and not an "H".
Not sexist. Just common sense and name recognition.

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Anyone Else Notice That We Tend to Use Female Candidates First Names But Male Candidates Last Names? [View all] Joe Nation Apr 2015 OP

Let me check with Bernie on that.... daleanime Apr 2015 #1

In fairness to Bernie, it may be because of his last name giving the impression of Col Sanders. MillennialDem Apr 2015 #25

Or it could be, House of Roberts Apr 2015 #26

Well that's also part of it I'm sure, though I didn't know Bernie or Thom Hartmann 10 years ago ;) MillennialDem Apr 2015 #30

We say Hillary because of Bill, but we say Warren, not Elizabeth. Just two examples. nt valerief Apr 2015 #2

That's what I was thinking. I never call Warren 'Elizabeth'. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #7

Palin and Backman also HockeyMom Apr 2015 #9

It's just to avoid confusion. Alittleliberal Apr 2015 #29

Too many Bushes! HockeyMom Apr 2015 #33

Totally agree Justice Apr 2015 #18

Yep... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #23

To be fair: Hillary Clinton's campaigns have encouraged the practice... Skinner Apr 2015 #3

good points, with the new logo- it is as if Mrs. Clinton says, "Call me Hillary" Sunlei Apr 2015 #20

Busy hasn't announced yet yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #4

Fine for Cruz and Walker. stone space Apr 2015 #5

Because if we say Clinton, someone might think we are talking about Bill. djean111 Apr 2015 #6

We do this in all sorts of areas Proud Public Servant Apr 2015 #8

Good points thanks everyone Joe Nation Apr 2015 #10

Having worked in an academic department... Chan790 Apr 2015 #14

Technically Professor is reserved for those who are tenured or on tenure track and do research and MillennialDem Apr 2015 #28

Also, Hillary uses her first name only on a lot of campaign materials Travis_0004 Apr 2015 #11

Yes. That's an old feminist observation about the diminutiveization of women. jobycom Apr 2015 #12

You have one example -- and there are easier reasons for that karynnj Apr 2015 #13

She's a celebrity, like Cher, Madonna, Bono, Sting, and Snooki! NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #15

That was a popular Republican anti Obama jab too 'He's a celebrity candidate'. Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #24

Oh Noes...You dissin' Brittney? Christina? Elvis? LOL . libdem4life Apr 2015 #42

I wonder what Warren thinks. n/t zappaman Apr 2015 #16

baloney. BERNIE is in. cali Apr 2015 #17

you're right, people do tend to do that. I intend to show disrespect when I type ''Jebbie' like a, Sunlei Apr 2015 #19

Bernie and Jeb oldandhappy Apr 2015 #21

Warren is used all the time. former9thward Apr 2015 #22

Depends to some degree on the difficulty of the name. Arnold Schwarzenegger still_one Apr 2015 #27

To really throw a monkey wrench into things, what about those who we typically use both names MillennialDem Apr 2015 #31

That's because nobody wants to acknowledge mythology Apr 2015 #39

Warren disagrees. apnu Apr 2015 #32

Good Point UCmeNdc Apr 2015 #34

You mean like Bachmann and Palin? DFW Apr 2015 #35

Tell that to "I like Ike" Eisenhauer and "Give 'em Hell Harry" Truman MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #36

Maybe you should have another look. MineralMan Apr 2015 #37

I think Hillary wants to be distinguished from Bill treestar Apr 2015 #38

I always say Willard Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #40

I was just noticing in GD treestar Apr 2015 #41

Or Newt in a earlier era. whistler162 May 2015 #45

Anyone else notice how wrong the premise of this OP is? phleshdef Apr 2015 #43

Meh. HappyMe May 2015 #44

Bernie, Howard, Bill (and among the GOP--Mitt or Willard; Jeb). I think that with Dems, it tblue37 May 2015 #46

Other than Bernie, Jeb, Mitt you mean? Nt Bonobo May 2015 #47