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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
46. Remember when "Progressive" was a dirty, scary word?
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 08:58 AM
Jul 2015

Like, four years ago?

Now the word's so in demand that even Neoliberals like Hillary are claiming title to it. LOL!

People often wake up when they need to.

parties are a state of mind hollysmom Jul 2015 #1
Your sincere concern is noted. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #2
Dismissive tripe Sheepshank Jul 2015 #77
Dismissive tripe is what I'd call the op. RichVRichV Jul 2015 #81
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #87
+1 Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #96
Hopefully you have noticedBernie supporters ...... Sheepshank Jul 2015 #99
A thread started by a Hillary supporter RichVRichV Jul 2015 #103
OP is an Attack? You need to get a thicker skin Sheepshank Jul 2015 #106
I count at least 7 attacks in the op. RichVRichV Jul 2015 #126
+1. Well stated. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #282
it is as much an attack as threads that Clinton supporters karynnj Jul 2015 #284
Oh I know Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #133
I'm not worried at all. George II Jul 2015 #294
Your concern is noted. RichVRichV Jul 2015 #98
You must be very concerned for Bernie...I would be too Sheepshank Jul 2015 #100
I think you need a dictionary. RichVRichV Jul 2015 #108
Your subtlety is noted. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #109
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Jul 2015 #127
As everyone keeps saying, RichVRichV Jul 2015 #238
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Jul 2015 #256
I consider all the Dem candidates RichVRichV Jul 2015 #260
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Jul 2015 #272
Oh bull--you apparently don't know what "concern trolling" is. MADem Jul 2015 #130
Excellent post, MADem! calimary Jul 2015 #224
Thanks! MADem Jul 2015 #228
See post 258 for a rebuttal of every point. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #261
Knock it off tavalon Jul 2015 #113
I dare no I triple dog dare the Republicans to make Levi an issue. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #3
Well said! emsimon33 Jul 2015 #5
The difference is Sanders admits he is a socialist. DCBob Jul 2015 #8
They won't when they realize they are socialist. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #9
With all due respect.... BooScout Jul 2015 #10
You swear fealty to a political party and consider yourself enlightened? Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #28
Last time I checked..... BooScout Jul 2015 #52
Read the rules again. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #101
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #198
you old dawg you! BooScout Jul 2015 #208
That's a major mindset change and is not going to happen between now and election day. DCBob Jul 2015 #11
Given that they've been oblivious okasha Jul 2015 #241
Everyone I talk to gets it and most the people I talk to are conservative family members. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #247
The US Military is the largest Socialist system in the world. tecelote Jul 2015 #279
America is a socialist Democracy as it is today, when it comes right down to it madokie Jul 2015 #16
LOL.. "we the people" don't agree with you.. DCBob Jul 2015 #19
Thats assuming that we're talking about and comparing madokie Jul 2015 #22
I doubt most voters would know the difference. DCBob Jul 2015 #23
Thats not what you stated as truth though madokie Jul 2015 #26
Since we are mincing words here I thought he calls himself a "Democratic Socialist"?? DCBob Jul 2015 #37
Matters not which comes first madokie Jul 2015 #41
Are you kidding.. there is huge difference.. DCBob Jul 2015 #49
Whatever madokie Jul 2015 #54
Before lecturing others, you might TM99 Jul 2015 #110
Double talk. okasha Jul 2015 #242
I don't think people care kacekwl Jul 2015 #56
Then you are sticking your head in the sand Sheepshank Jul 2015 #78
The charts above Mnpaul Jul 2015 #168
If this terrible label is hurting him, Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #263
The New Deal: Socialism in action tavalon Jul 2015 #118
I think they're asking people to react to the word--and Frank Luntz and his "Words that work" crew MADem Jul 2015 #269
the republiCON base aren't in our camp anyway madokie Jul 2015 #276
Remember when "Progressive" was a dirty, scary word? MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #46
Well shit.. "progressive" to the ignorant masses is a new Walmart down the road. DCBob Jul 2015 #61
Bernie doesn't have a few years to change internal thinking of thie US population. Sheepshank Jul 2015 #79
Who else is going to change it? MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #80
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #201
Wow, I think you just proved that Republicans are old tavalon Jul 2015 #117
Down this road again Bob? 99Forever Jul 2015 #32
Sorry if the truth is difficult for you. DCBob Jul 2015 #34
In what Universe is your OPINION called truth, Bob? 99Forever Jul 2015 #38
Pluto maybe madokie Jul 2015 #44
More like Universe Hillary... 99Forever Jul 2015 #47
I'm sure they do madokie Jul 2015 #48
Not my opinion.. it's the voter's opinion. DCBob Jul 2015 #66
linking back to one of your earlier post is laughable madokie Jul 2015 #278
Here's another poll.. but you probably wont like it either. DCBob Jul 2015 #293
Whow. Thanks for this post. I do riversedge Jul 2015 #302
Most of the people with a real problem with the word "socialist"..... daleanime Jul 2015 #50
I am talking about this as an issue in the general should he somehow win the Dem nomination. DCBob Jul 2015 #67
Me too.... daleanime Jul 2015 #68
Ok, so you are saying those types wouldn't vote for Democrat regardless. DCBob Jul 2015 #70
You believe Hillary would have a stronger appeal with independents? daleanime Jul 2015 #73
Yes. Not sure what the laughing is all about... I guess you don't keep up with the polls. DCBob Jul 2015 #83
Is it the same as a month ago? daleanime Jul 2015 #89
This poll was taken June 26-28. DCBob Jul 2015 #92
And the poll from May? daleanime Jul 2015 #146
what about it?? DCBob Jul 2015 #160
Was it the same? daleanime Jul 2015 #177
I have no idea? DCBob Jul 2015 #179
Because that's what's important.... daleanime Jul 2015 #181
So you know? Not interested in playing games. DCBob Jul 2015 #183
Excuse me, I was neither rude or disrespectful.... daleanime Jul 2015 #190
Sorry, but you are not excused.. if you have something to say.. just say it. DCBob Jul 2015 #244
No problem, I'll be as patient with you as necessary.... daleanime Jul 2015 #248
WTF? DCBob Jul 2015 #249
Short version, you have my sympathies, you've proven that you need them.... daleanime Jul 2015 #251
WTFF? Sympathies? You are one confused individual. DCBob Jul 2015 #254
No, just a sympathetic one... daleanime Jul 2015 #257
Easily solved tavalon Jul 2015 #116
Some folks seem to just want it to be a problem.... daleanime Jul 2015 #178
Yup, seems they have a Levi in their closet too tavalon Jul 2015 #114
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #197
Proposals to pay for his plans. Stevepol Jul 2015 #216
Oh thanks I was just going off the top of my head and didn't go back and listen to the last speech.. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #222
Our elected officials are aging udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #4
Carlos Danger wrote as much yesterday. Wilms Jul 2015 #6
A person I know who is a political illiterate brought up this age thing up with Bernie this evening emsimon33 Jul 2015 #7
The whole of the 'CON party attacked Jack Kennedy as too young madokie Jul 2015 #18
Political parties are a way to organize to help candidates win elections. femmedem Jul 2015 #12
I like your Carlos Danger handle much more. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #13
Huh? BooScout Jul 2015 #15
They're accusing you of being someone else since they can't handle what you're saying. Cha Jul 2015 #236
This is just sad.... BooScout Jul 2015 #240
IOW the typical MO. Now you know. I've seen it so many times it's just boring.. sorry Cha Jul 2015 #243
Thanks! BooScout Jul 2015 #246
+1 artislife Jul 2015 #60
I would challenge the "not a nagative campaigner" concept Cosmocat Jul 2015 #14
There are alot of major question marks about Sanders.. DCBob Jul 2015 #17
Lets hear these major questions that make him a risky candidate madokie Jul 2015 #20
Here are a few off the top of my head.. DCBob Jul 2015 #21
Please proceed madokie Jul 2015 #24
I know you wouldn't worry about any of these things.. DCBob Jul 2015 #33
Geeze man madokie Jul 2015 #39
Look at the screen name Depaysement Jul 2015 #53
I know madokie Jul 2015 #57
! Depaysement Jul 2015 #58
Gee, if you just switch genders artislife Jul 2015 #55
The Bronx accent will be a big plus redstateblues Jul 2015 #264
Replies and rebuttal. TM99 Jul 2015 #25
He says he's a Democratic Socialist. Renew Deal Jul 2015 #30
That's what I said. TM99 Jul 2015 #31
And your regular everyday uninformed voter is going to get that difference?? DCBob Jul 2015 #36
Yes, of course. TM99 Jul 2015 #40
yeah.. right. You forgot we live in a "Fox educated" world. DCBob Jul 2015 #51
Not a lot of Democrats TM99 Jul 2015 #75
General election issue. DCBob Jul 2015 #84
Again, so what? TM99 Jul 2015 #86
Are you interested in keeping a Democrat in the WH?? DCBob Jul 2015 #90
My only interest is in getting TM99 Jul 2015 #91
Hillary is not as liberal as Bernie but she is far more liberal than any GOPer. DCBob Jul 2015 #93
Yes, indeedy, Hillary Clinton TM99 Jul 2015 #97
So the question is do you want to go with a "number 13" liberal who will likely win the WH or.. DCBob Jul 2015 #102
Yes, I will take the risk. TM99 Jul 2015 #105
Hillary Clinton will hand this election to the worst of the worse if she is our nominee madokie Jul 2015 #275
Look at you all about party unity and SwampG8r Jul 2015 #298
Precisely! n/t BooScout Jul 2015 #42
Really don't kacekwl Jul 2015 #62
I love your speaking the truth daybranch Jul 2015 #74
"His oddball past?" Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #104
-- his extreme approach to banking reforms frylock Jul 2015 #252
I know, right? gollygee Jul 2015 #301
What is his "oddball past?" gollygee Jul 2015 #300
Guns, can his stance... NOT LOSE votes in south side KC or Chi Town!? I doubt it dearly uponit7771 Jul 2015 #268
Not at all madokie Jul 2015 #274
Guns are NOT a worry in South Side KC? Chi Town, Fifth Ward?! You KIDDING?! These are predeomantly uponit7771 Jul 2015 #288
I did not insinuate anything of the kind madokie Jul 2015 #289
More dismissiveness vs addressing the obvious that Bernies gun stance isn't going to play well were uponit7771 Jul 2015 #290
You have no idea madokie Jul 2015 #291
More condescending ad homs,indicator of a weak position on the issue of Bernies stance on guns uponit7771 Jul 2015 #292
When they have no counter to the debate.... BooScout Jul 2015 #295
Bull HERVEPA Jul 2015 #287
The answer as to why Sanders is running as a Democrat, and is quite simple. He told us he will NOT still_one Jul 2015 #27
If Sanders won, his presidency would resemble Pope Benedict Renew Deal Jul 2015 #29
Oh, okay.. frylock Jul 2015 #253
Sanders has been caucusing with Democrats sincehegot into office, he's voted with.... marble falls Jul 2015 #35
Says the person... 99Forever Jul 2015 #43
I am a US CITIZEN BooScout Jul 2015 #69
He is a true democrat, believing in the things that are consistent with rainy Jul 2015 #45
If he is a Democrat why does he still have I behind is name as a congressional member? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #170
Because the Democrats in office are the rainy Jul 2015 #280
He does not represent Democrat values on every issue. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #283
Granted, this one has a little more honey with the vinegar, but your avatar was a dead giveaway corkhead Jul 2015 #59
I have a suggestion for you. 99Forever Jul 2015 #63
You mean laugh at the fact that this person pathetically rec'd their own OP? corkhead Jul 2015 #64
"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet." W. Shakespeare R. P. McMurphy Jul 2015 #65
Ooooh Nice! wendylaroux Jul 2015 #164
I think he is the opposite of a DINO, a Democrat in everything but name. Howard Dean would agree, seaglass Jul 2015 #71
some republicans say the party left them an that is why they voted for Obama daybranch Jul 2015 #72
The Third Way and DLC total betrayal of Franklin Roosevelt ecomonic system? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #152
What Disturbs Me About You Is This..... global1 Jul 2015 #76
Not an attack piece at all... BooScout Jul 2015 #82
The Repugs Will Pounce On Any Dem Candidate That Makes It To The Nomination..... global1 Jul 2015 #94
LOL..... BooScout Jul 2015 #95
The Republicans have been pouncing on Hillary since at least '92. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #111
Why waste all this time with concerns over someone you don't think will win in the first place? arcane1 Jul 2015 #227
Why don't you try that again minus the personal attacks? n/t seaglass Jul 2015 #115
With the likes of Trump & Cruz Dems have a real opportunity to shave off Rep voters Sheepshank Jul 2015 #85
You understood wrong. LWolf Jul 2015 #88
Thank you. I was going to ask the same thing but you put it better than I could. historylovr Jul 2015 #122
I like Hillary, BUT... onecaliberal Jul 2015 #107
He can't win as an independent tavalon Jul 2015 #112
I too worry about how he would pay for these things rock Jul 2015 #119
You know when you see a title like this artislife Jul 2015 #120
Ageism anyone ? CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #121
"with absolutely nothing proposed on how to pay for them"... ljm2002 Jul 2015 #123
I'll keep this short retrowire Jul 2015 #124
This makes me think you don't know much about Bernie's time in Congress nor about the Democratic Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #125
PROGRESSIVE is NOT a synonym for DEMOCRATIC. MADem Jul 2015 #207
What kind of DEMOCRATIC Party do we want? Martin Eden Jul 2015 #265
"Progressive values" mean different things to different people. MADem Jul 2015 #267
A crashed economy and disastrous wars mean different things to different people, you suppose Martin Eden Jul 2015 #285
No--I think a crashed economy means the same to pretty much everyone. MADem Jul 2015 #286
It's a shame your polite opinion has been met with personal insult and invective. MADem Jul 2015 #128
Thanks.... BooScout Jul 2015 #132
I pointedo out the gaping hole in the OP's knowledge of the Party and the person, offered a whole Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #134
If the shoe does not fit you, I would encourage you to not try to cram your foot into it. MADem Jul 2015 #137
And look how your pal goes after me. Look at that. Does not respond in any way to all that I wrote Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #192
Look, I was responding to the post that STARTED THIS THREAD--if you want a fight, I MADem Jul 2015 #196
you need to calm down... BooScout Jul 2015 #203
And please share your credentials.... BooScout Jul 2015 #138
in all fairness I respect Bluenorthwest opinion, to me he's one of the good guys. William769 Jul 2015 #182
I will if he will... BooScout Jul 2015 #200
You and I agree maybe 5% of the time Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #262
So rather than respond to what I offered, you question my record? Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #189
you questioned or rather condemned my own knowledge first.... BooScout Jul 2015 #199
And, who couldn't have predicted that? Cha Jul 2015 #235
No one wants to discuss even sincere concerns. MADem Jul 2015 #266
I know.. they feel so strongly about their candidate.. I would think they could be able Cha Jul 2015 #273
If You Like Sanders... aintitfunny Jul 2015 #129
He's still not actually a Democrat. William769 Jul 2015 #131
You stand corrected. 99Forever Jul 2015 #135
Show me where he is a declared Democrat, then I'll stand corrected. William769 Jul 2015 #136
Find it yourself. 99Forever Jul 2015 #139
So then you can't. Ok. William769 Jul 2015 #140
Try looking up the definitions of can't and won't. 99Forever Jul 2015 #144
Try this. William769 Jul 2015 #147
Don't care. 99Forever Jul 2015 #148
Typical. William769 Jul 2015 #150
did he mean don't care BooScout Jul 2015 #154
Yes you are. 99Forever Jul 2015 #155
So I guess you really didn't mean bu bye? William769 Jul 2015 #157
Guess I didn't. 99Forever Jul 2015 #161
Well that's obvious ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #206
Is that what happened? 99Forever Jul 2015 #210
I really wish individual posts had a LIKE button. BooScout Jul 2015 #151
It's on my website. Feel free to use it when needed. William769 Jul 2015 #156
Thanks! BooScout Jul 2015 #159
That's fantastic! nt onehandle Jul 2015 #209
lol Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #174
I think you upset someone. BooScout Jul 2015 #141
I don't. William769 Jul 2015 #142
I'm the op.... BooScout Jul 2015 #143
And you would be wrong again. 99Forever Jul 2015 #153
nah.....I'm usually correct.... BooScout Jul 2015 #158
It's don't and you aren't. 99Forever Jul 2015 #166
Does this mean you care? BooScout Jul 2015 #169
You are most certainly touched. 99Forever Jul 2015 #172
It's not nice to call names.... BooScout Jul 2015 #175
Names? 99Forever Jul 2015 #176
Rofl :) Cha Jul 2015 #239
He has said otherwise, so I am afraid YOU stand corrected. MADem Jul 2015 #145
Thank you. William769 Jul 2015 #149
The poster has made an incorrect assertion, and won't provide proof because there isn't any. MADem Jul 2015 #162
Agreed. William769 Jul 2015 #163
My point exactly n/t BooScout Jul 2015 #165
+1000000000000000000 Little Star Jul 2015 #171
Cannot dispute this. calimary Jul 2015 #223
How is he corrected? Sanders is not a Democrat but an Independent. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #180
It isn't. Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #184
Lol yes it is funny to watch. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #185
Sennator Sanders is a declared candidate for the Democratic Party's.. 99Forever Jul 2015 #186
He is not a registered Democrat. Are you claiming here is? hrmjustin Jul 2015 #187
Registered where? 99Forever Jul 2015 #211
Forgive me for using logic and facts. I know it was very mean of me. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #212
Way to dodge the question. 99Forever Jul 2015 #213
Seems like you are dodging and wasting my time. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #214
Hey, if you can't or won't answer the question, just say so. 99Forever Jul 2015 #215
Sanders has made clear his whole career he was never a member of the Democratic Party. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #217
That wasn't the question. 99Forever Jul 2015 #218
Vermont does not have registration by party. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #219
No. 99Forever Jul 2015 #220
Actually it doesn't because Schunlin, Leahy, ans Walsh identify as Democrats. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #221
... 99Forever Jul 2015 #225
From your posts i didn't think you were capable of having one. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #226
.... 99Forever Jul 2015 #229
Jury results. zeemike Jul 2015 #270
Yeah. So what? Maedhros Jul 2015 #193
What matters is I am A Democrat. William769 Jul 2015 #195
The Democratic Party is a tool for getting things done. Maedhros Jul 2015 #204
It's not Bernie's tool.... BooScout Jul 2015 #281
Wow, really? Link? frylock Jul 2015 #255
II like Hillary I really do But silenttigersong Jul 2015 #167
Awwww - Anthony Weiner - AKA Carlos Danger!!!!! (that name begs for exclamation points) - beat ya to djean111 Jul 2015 #173
Has Sanders actually said he entered the race to drive the Democratic Party left? WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #188
No need to ask any more questions, Martin O'Malley has been a Democrat since birth, elleng Jul 2015 #191
"I like Bernie BUT..." always precedes nonsense. Maedhros Jul 2015 #194
Your "understanding" is false. He has been in this race to get elected, period. arcane1 Jul 2015 #202
He did us Dems a HUGE favor by not running as an Independent. PotatoChip Jul 2015 #205
I agree gwheezie Jul 2015 #234
I can't help but feel like this is a complete joke bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #230
I don't know why we rise to the bait Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #245
Yeah, I should have kept my mouth shut bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #271
remember forrest gump restorefreedom Jul 2015 #231
Youre a serious person with seriously serious concerns that seriously need to be addressed seriously Scootaloo Jul 2015 #232
And, you know, we have to make HARD choices. FlatBaroque Jul 2015 #250
I think it's a legit concern for any dem running gwheezie Jul 2015 #233
That is what the primary race is for -- for him to prove he is the best candidate overall. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #237
Response by paragraph: Admiral Loinpresser Jul 2015 #258
Well, I will answer them mvd Jul 2015 #259
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Jul 2015 #277
k riversedge Jul 2015 #296
k&r Little Star Jul 2015 #297
If you don't like him running as a Democrat, you have a beef with the system as mmonk Jul 2015 #299
It's proof, imo, that he's a realist. JNelson6563 Jul 2015 #303
Democrats are hoisted on their own petard on that one. SolutionisSolidarity Jul 2015 #304
the fact that he's running a democrat it's honor taught_me_patience Jul 2015 #305
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