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Bluenorthwest

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23. Of course that's not what I said, I suggested that over romantic veribage about the past is
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jul 2015

very often a political indulgence of those who happened to be personally better off in the past and that if you say it was better for 'the average guy' during times when minorities were discriminated against and guys who were gay were thrown in jail then it does suggest that 'average guys' are not minority guys or gay guys.

Had I said what you so casually accuse me of saying you might have a point. But what I actually said is that this casual mitigation of very rotten times for so many into something rosy and to be longed for is a choice I do not understand.

I asked very specifically about ballot issues I voted on during those years, and I got no response. But again, a culture that just wants what's best for the neighbors does not in fact vote on firing all the gay teachers.
People who want to reward themselves for being golden when they were actually a mean and bigoted culture need to be called out on that.
The rhetoric in the OP is just the sort of rhetoric that will cost Bernie voters and I urge you to think about that.
I support Bernie to move forward to better times, not to long for the days of the closet. And the days the OP speaks of, those were the days of the closet.

My take On Bernie- [View all] ruffburr Jul 2015 OP
I agree peacebird Jul 2015 #1
You're right HassleCat Jul 2015 #2
let us not forget, Congress daybranch Jul 2015 #4
IMO people became dispirited under Carter not because things were not working but because jwirr Jul 2015 #27
The seventies weren't that good. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #3
Pining away for the segregated and punitive past in a way that denifes 'average guy' as white and Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #5
Reading comprehension problem? Look for this word in the very first sentence: "economically" Scuba Jul 2015 #7
I thought i made it clear- ruffburr Jul 2015 #10
A better outlook for some of the people, not 'the people' and that's the entire point. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #20
If we ignore history, well .. maybe you're not saying that 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #26
So the civil rights movement did not give people of color a better outlook? And moving the jwirr Jul 2015 #29
I love how some people totally dismiss the struggle for Civil Rights back then sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #34
Unfortunately today too many think change will happen just like that. It fook decades for all of the jwirr Jul 2015 #35
A better outlook for all people? Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #22
Well that is not completely true. zeemike Jul 2015 #28
You can never, ever, no matter how you try, make it clear enough sammythecat Jul 2015 #33
They understand, they are just shit stirrers Doctor_J Jul 2015 #40
So all who thought the previous decades were better then now Trajan Jul 2015 #13
Of course that's not what I said, I suggested that over romantic veribage about the past is Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #23
I for one did not vote on any anti-gay ballot issue and I suspect that is why we did not answer jwirr Jul 2015 #31
You accused another poster of pining away for segregation Scootaloo Jul 2015 #39
How would Sanders have voted on that ballot? LWolf Jul 2015 #14
I support Sanders, I said nothing against Bernie, Bernie did not write this crap, Bernie does not Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #17
+1 DCBob Jul 2015 #30
How about you write an OP rather than going into everyone else's and criticizing sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #36
I don't disagree; LWolf Jul 2015 #37
Show me where the poster pined away for Segregation, please Scootaloo Jul 2015 #38
The Republican War on Empathy won the early battles, but the tide is turning. Scuba Jul 2015 #6
Yes and no. Things were better for whites, but still sucky for minorities. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #8
Reagan started the pot boiling, with us in it. Martin Eden Jul 2015 #9
Awesome anology. Think we'll make it? PatrickforO Jul 2015 #15
I always try to retain my optimism Martin Eden Jul 2015 #16
Yeah, me too. At 56 I'm too old for pitchforks. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #18
At 57, I don't think violence will produce good results. Martin Eden Jul 2015 #19
No, you're right. After those kind of revolutions, there's always a terror. Not good, and something PatrickforO Jul 2015 #24
Yes, from about 1950 through about 1975, we had in this nation what is called by some PatrickforO Jul 2015 #11
Personaly ruffburr Jul 2015 #12
It was a prosperity built on excluding women and minorities Recursion Jul 2015 #21
Let America Be America Again highprincipleswork Jul 2015 #25
Also, since unions were more common the races blended in the workplace a lot more.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #32
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