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2016 Postmortem

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jwirr

(39,215 posts)
31. I for one did not vote on any anti-gay ballot issue and I suspect that is why we did not answer
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 02:46 PM
Jul 2015

your question. There were no such issues on our ballots. I think your describing the whole era as mean and bigoted may be more connected with where you lived.

In my experience much of the basis of the changes coming in the 60s and 70s were begun in the late 50s. For instance black music was one of the things that became very popular during the late 50s. It introduced many of us who were young back then to a black culture that we learned to love. Both sang and dance. Ali and Hank Aaron also influenced us and helped us reject the mean and bigoted culture. And when MLK came on the scene we were ready to help him.

I do not remember much political action on the LGBT issue in the 50s, 60s and 70s in Iowa but what was happening was that many were coming out. We found that both friends and family members were gay. And at least in my community they were finding acceptance among many of us. The issue of LGBT rights ran into a wall in the 70s because of the TV preachers. They have had a harder fight for their rights since then.

The issues women worked for in that era were the same ones they had fought for before. More of us were waking up to the need for the change. Birth control, control over our bodies. Many of us were able to finally get a divorce from a bad relationship because of the existence of welfare. We were able to go to college even if we were poor.

I do not see how you cannot see that it was better.

You say you want to move forward not go back - when we say we want some things from that era we are mostly talking about the things that the Rs and 3 Way Democrats have taken away from us - like Glass-steagell that protects us for risky investments and trade bills that allow multi-national corporations to have more power than they have ever had. I also would like to be able to see my grandchildren be able to go to college.

My take On Bernie- [View all] ruffburr Jul 2015 OP
I agree peacebird Jul 2015 #1
You're right HassleCat Jul 2015 #2
let us not forget, Congress daybranch Jul 2015 #4
IMO people became dispirited under Carter not because things were not working but because jwirr Jul 2015 #27
The seventies weren't that good. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #3
Pining away for the segregated and punitive past in a way that denifes 'average guy' as white and Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #5
Reading comprehension problem? Look for this word in the very first sentence: "economically" Scuba Jul 2015 #7
I thought i made it clear- ruffburr Jul 2015 #10
A better outlook for some of the people, not 'the people' and that's the entire point. Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #20
If we ignore history, well .. maybe you're not saying that 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #26
So the civil rights movement did not give people of color a better outlook? And moving the jwirr Jul 2015 #29
I love how some people totally dismiss the struggle for Civil Rights back then sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #34
Unfortunately today too many think change will happen just like that. It fook decades for all of the jwirr Jul 2015 #35
A better outlook for all people? Cali_Democrat Jul 2015 #22
Well that is not completely true. zeemike Jul 2015 #28
You can never, ever, no matter how you try, make it clear enough sammythecat Jul 2015 #33
They understand, they are just shit stirrers Doctor_J Jul 2015 #40
So all who thought the previous decades were better then now Trajan Jul 2015 #13
Of course that's not what I said, I suggested that over romantic veribage about the past is Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #23
I for one did not vote on any anti-gay ballot issue and I suspect that is why we did not answer jwirr Jul 2015 #31
You accused another poster of pining away for segregation Scootaloo Jul 2015 #39
How would Sanders have voted on that ballot? LWolf Jul 2015 #14
I support Sanders, I said nothing against Bernie, Bernie did not write this crap, Bernie does not Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #17
+1 DCBob Jul 2015 #30
How about you write an OP rather than going into everyone else's and criticizing sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #36
I don't disagree; LWolf Jul 2015 #37
Show me where the poster pined away for Segregation, please Scootaloo Jul 2015 #38
The Republican War on Empathy won the early battles, but the tide is turning. Scuba Jul 2015 #6
Yes and no. Things were better for whites, but still sucky for minorities. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #8
Reagan started the pot boiling, with us in it. Martin Eden Jul 2015 #9
Awesome anology. Think we'll make it? PatrickforO Jul 2015 #15
I always try to retain my optimism Martin Eden Jul 2015 #16
Yeah, me too. At 56 I'm too old for pitchforks. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #18
At 57, I don't think violence will produce good results. Martin Eden Jul 2015 #19
No, you're right. After those kind of revolutions, there's always a terror. Not good, and something PatrickforO Jul 2015 #24
Yes, from about 1950 through about 1975, we had in this nation what is called by some PatrickforO Jul 2015 #11
Personaly ruffburr Jul 2015 #12
It was a prosperity built on excluding women and minorities Recursion Jul 2015 #21
Let America Be America Again highprincipleswork Jul 2015 #25
Also, since unions were more common the races blended in the workplace a lot more.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #32
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