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In reply to the discussion: What Black Lives Matter Gets Wrong About Bernie Sanders - Reuters [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)112. Let me try again.
These are your words. Now try to read them as though you are a young black adult who has lost a cousin or a friend to police violence. Just pretend you grew up with Michael Brown or Trayvon Martin or Sandra Bland. That's your reality. You're tired of watching children and adults get shot, choked, killed, hogtied, and brutalized by police or police wanna-bees, who then WALK after doing the killing.
From that perspective, in those shoes, read these comments:
And those demands were met by Sanders...he spoke out about it pretty clearly...but was it enough for you?...what else should he have said?.... We are not your enemy just because we share the same skin colour as a racist...but it sure seems you think we are.
And the only solution for that could be separation from each other...division that will serve the racist more than it will serve you.
And the only solution for that could be separation from each other...division that will serve the racist more than it will serve you.
That sounds a lot like "Take what we give you, or we'll go back to segregation." That may not have been your intent, but that's how it comes off--like a threat.
You keep coming back to "Your feelings." Again, this is not about your feelings. It's not about white people's feelings at all. It's about black people, and people who care about black people, saying that it's way past time that our institutions--and our politicians--pay attention to the fact that police are murdering our children and young adults based on their skin color. That this isn't right. That it needs to stop. That We, The People think this is important and we want this issue at or near the front of the line.
It's not about anyone "making you feel like" anything. Just listen, and say "Yes, that IS a complaint that deserves PRIORITY." Because it does. Don't say "Yes but I helped you before" or "Yes but you saying that makes it seem -and no, it doesn't -- like I'm a racist." Again, not about you. The people who are making this complaint don't want you to "do" anything, save nod, say "That's right" and stand up and applaud when the politicians say they'll give the matter the attention it deserves.
That's all that's needed. A little solidarity.
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they were emotional over what happened with Sandra Bland, this wasn't some timed formal debate
JI7
Jul 2015
#36
The only reason - the ONLY FUCKING REASON - it "does not bring unity" is because
scarletwoman
Jul 2015
#39
The cops just LOVE this stupid shit. Plays right into their hands. Nobody sees it.
7962
Jul 2015
#60
Did you ever stop and think that "the black people" that you "know in the real world"
MADem
Jul 2015
#93
Like I said--there's nothing to rebut re: blm. That is their truth and they want
MADem
Jul 2015
#105
You wanted your say, though, and framed their cry for help as half of a conversation.
MADem
Jul 2015
#109
I am telling you how I am perceiving what you say, and I've said nothing to even
MADem
Jul 2015
#120
i was right when i said a lot of that outrage had little to do with Sanders himself
JI7
Jul 2015
#23
Only wrong in one thing - "racism is not quite as overt". I am 73 years old and do not think I have
jwirr
Jul 2015
#58
"The idea, presumably, was to get him to address questions of racism alone, particularly ..."
GoneFishin
Jul 2015
#10
in a coordinate plane I understand orthogonal to be more perpendicular than parallel
HereSince1628
Jul 2015
#33
Why are they taking it personally? Because nothing is as fiercely defended as one's blind spot. nt
scarletwoman
Jul 2015
#43
My blind spot are my mixed race family. AA, Native American, Latino, Asian and white. And when
jwirr
Jul 2015
#61
Not biased ... racist. Most people will readily admit they have biases. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#53
I understand ... You were trying to avoid the use of the term racist/racism ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#91
Why can't we eliminate racism without changing our economic system? n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#55
Everything intersects: racism, homophobia, sexism, ableism, transphobia, and classism
DemocraticWing
Jul 2015
#74
Because the origin of racism in this country is an economic system in which men and women were OWNED
Romulox
Jul 2015
#80
so how does that explain Sandra Bland and the Pool kids and the RAcist cops ? the cops are not rich
JI7
Jul 2015
#82
They draw their salaries from "it"--they enforce the economic status quo with deadly force. nt
Romulox
Jul 2015
#87
I agree that racism was the dehumanizing tool used to further the slave enterprise
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#90
American slavery was the commodification of racism--it's purest form. "Otherism" isn't the same thing. nt
Romulox
Jul 2015
#92
Because it is built on racism, exploitation, and predatory behavior and if you extract
TheKentuckian
Jul 2015
#124
Somehow I think they're tired of the bullshit memo that he marched with MLK...
Historic NY
Jul 2015
#57