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1StrongBlackMan

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35. Well. I went to the speech that the OP cited ...

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:07 PM

Jul 2015

I am very familiar with it; but, did not read the larger point that the OP was attempting to make.

And, even in this speech, MLK still wasn't making the point the OP was attempting to make. Dr. King's focus NEVER shifted to economics over racial justice. And when he spoke of economic justice he was speaking from the frame of racial justice.

And yes ... Dr. King gave several speeches around the Other America theme ... and I am aware of one, his speech at Stanford, in which he included "Mexican-Americans, Puerto Ricans, 'Indians' and Appalachian whites", in the impoverished class. However, and again, he started that speech by saying there were a lot of things he could talk about but he "was there to talk about race" ... and he ended the inclusive portion (above) with "but the negro is by far the worst victim" (not a quote).

In other words, when he was speaking of economics, he was talking about Black folks and in terms of intra-class economic justice; rather than, some fight against the 1%, as it is being re-interpreted on these boards.

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What the heck!? Why are people viewing systemic racism and economic inequality as separate issues? [View all] gobears10 Jul 2015 OP

This was all done to give that smug turd Chuck Todd a reason to ask stupid questions. gordianot Jul 2015 #1

two sides of the same coin noiretextatique Jul 2015 #2

strategic divide and conquer by some candidates and their supporters. nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #5

indeed noiretextatique Jul 2015 #23

It has to be a part of the plan/modus operandi Android3.14 Jul 2015 #3

Then we should get united over race. gollygee Jul 2015 #40

divide and conquer magical thyme Jul 2015 #4

Hey…. MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #6

+1 n/t Bonhomme Richard Jul 2015 #7

because it's a wedge issue on which Hillary can get the upper hand Doctor_J Jul 2015 #8

Social Justice is a wedge issue? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #14

there is a group that is making it one Doctor_J Jul 2015 #16

it's much easier for party centrists to focus on identity politics nashville_brook Jul 2015 #20

Your response demonstrates that you still don't get it ... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #25

{Sighhh} ... How many times does this need to be said and in how many different ways ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #27

I'm going to tell you .... JoePhilly Jul 2015 #28

Now see? ... There you go ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #32

Here? zappaman Jul 2015 #31

K&R blackspade Jul 2015 #9

It may not be as big a mystery as you describe...but it's certainly complex. Sancho Jul 2015 #10

Cotton and polyester are very distinct things but once those fibers are blended TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #11

bernie called them parallel issues restorefreedom Jul 2015 #12

There is a great deal of overlap, but they are separate gollygee Jul 2015 #13

There is a very long history.... Adrahil Jul 2015 #15

The richest black man in town is still pulled over more often, incarerated more often Sheepshank Jul 2015 #17

I agree artislife Jul 2015 #22

Systemic racism and income inequality do reinforce each other Baitball Blogger Jul 2015 #18

Because it allows marginalization of one of the candidates n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #19

This has been ongoing for several years AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #21

Who benefits from this false dichotomy? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #24

Right Wing Dems Teamster Jeff Jul 2015 #29

This tells some of the horrors far too many face AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #26

I invite you to read (re-read) Dr. King's ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #30

He didn't say it in Other America because it's a different speech. jeff47 Jul 2015 #33

Well. I went to the speech that the OP cited ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #35

IMO, he was speaking of the need for both fights. jeff47 Jul 2015 #36

True ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #37

And whether those previous words were the totality of his plans jeff47 Jul 2015 #38

I think it's significant that earlier in the speech you cited ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #39

Yep, they are two fights. Somewhat complimentary, but two fights. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #42

And, though it cuts against the dominant DU 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #43

We seem to have two pools of people talking past each other. jeff47 Jul 2015 #44

I see it a little differently ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #45

Bernie Sanders and his supporters... malokvale77 Jul 2015 #34

I quit arguing they shouldn't be separated days ago. Just do what is right on both issues. mmonk Jul 2015 #41