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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: On what issue is Hillary better than Bernie? [View all]NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)45. I think you can expect she would implement
Chained CPI and means testing for Social Security, and probably add raising the retirement age to get GOP approval of her 'plan'. That would be one example of her 'liberal' policies. Another would of course be the implementing the 'liberal' TPP deal, and the 'liberal' Keystone pipeline too.
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In my opinion Hillary has the advantage of better name reognition, yes, but I also do see
Cal33
Aug 2015
#264
If you're a Wall Streeter, Hillary's pro-banking agenda...if you're a CEO, her pro-corporate policies...if you're part of the military complex, her pro-war voting record.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Aug 2015
#276
Hillary certainly has more experience organizing failed regime change in Libya and Syria
leveymg
Aug 2015
#92
Point made about HRC's record as SoS is factual, unfortunately. It isn't a RW talking point.
leveymg
Aug 2015
#118
Any yet he polls well behind her in every poll I have seen in matchups with GOP candidates.
DCBob
Aug 2015
#37
I disagree. For decades politicians have engaged in 'correct speak' aided by
PatrickforO
Aug 2015
#129
Her negatives are not that high. Granted they are higher than her positives, This thread is about
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#199
I'm not talking about numbers. I'm talking about the fact that she has no appeal whatsoever
eridani
Aug 2015
#203
That may be true but this thread is looking for POLICIES where she is better than Bernie. We can't
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#207
The solid blue wall in the Electoral College virtually guarantees that any
totodeinhere
Aug 2015
#231
HRC - Controlled By Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - A Favorite Friend Of The 1%
cantbeserious
Aug 2015
#106
I don't think that's clear. One could also argue that starting with single payer
DanTex
Aug 2015
#258
Simply put she foreign experience and a relationship with world leaders, she would not have to
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#11
OMG. You are laying the blame for the Iraq war, not on the people who voted for and shilled for it,
djean111
Aug 2015
#16
Facts are facts, perhaps you are not aware of Bernie's votes on war funding.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#20
Once the troops are there, you think the thing to do is leave them without support?
djean111
Aug 2015
#31
HC voted for the war and gets a pass, Bernie voted to support the troops and he's the bad guy.
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#162
Well, give them credit for a very bizarre spin. A spin that would not go over very well
djean111
Aug 2015
#166
He voted against the Iraq War. Had there been no war, there'd be no war funding. nt
valerief
Aug 2015
#228
Obama was smart enough to get Hillary as SOS. He also surrounded himself with very capable
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#56
And yet Obama gave Afghanistan and Iraq to Biden because he didn't trust Hillary to do what's right.
Exilednight
Aug 2015
#243
The question is about Hillary. What liberal policies would she pass? Support her position!
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#142
These Hillary supporters.. they don't have any concrete facts, so they come up with some bullshit.
Turchinsky
Aug 2015
#215
She sponsored a bill on minimum wage and another bill to tie minimum wage increases to Cingressional
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#164
Are you telling me you need yet another link to Clinton's advocacy of the Iraq war?
eridani
Aug 2015
#198
You need links to demonstrate that women and children were slaughtered in our ME adventures?
eridani
Aug 2015
#205
What I said in #192 was what any rational person would concede to be results of
eridani
Aug 2015
#209
Yes, I have wondered why Bernie voted for AUMF, this funded the bombs, and also troop expansion.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#212
If the bombs was not have been funded it would not have happened. The funding was the most
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#217
Dodging, I did not talk about body armors for our soldiers, I and not dodging that Hillary voted for
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#230
Bernie is also, it helps the defense contractors. He votes for the funding of wars because the
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#246
There has not been one issue posted so far that Bernie doesn't actually have a stronger record on
Live and Learn
Aug 2015
#10
You're wrong about the gun bill. Every other industry except for the gun industry *can* be
DanTex
Aug 2015
#19
All of them. Look at the text of the bill, it only applies to the gun industry.
DanTex
Aug 2015
#285
He has a record of voting no on trade agreements, this is a responsibility of a president, he can't
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#23
I am not using his strengths against him, the job he is running for requires he deal with trade.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#173
I have been truthful, I have said what I need to say, I don't need to this back and forth.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#179
Bernie has the international experience of my pet schnauzer. Short list of other stuff...
Sancho
Aug 2015
#12
Good post Sancho, yes she has board experience also, has served on a presidential cabinet also.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#26
Funny that you mention Madoff...that's a common meme here in FL...vote for "another Bernie"
Sancho
Aug 2015
#62
Do all of those links point to Sanders' desire for already-budgeted jobs
MannyGoldstein
Aug 2015
#80
Generally Hillary makes progressive or liberal decisions...she's a fairly liberal Democrat...
Sancho
Aug 2015
#151
The question for thread is "On what issue is Hillary better than Bernie"? Respectfully this is not
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#152
I saw the pet schnauzer post and believe it is a nice historical portrate of activities,
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#155
Ok...this could take a while, because there's lots of details...but here goes one at a time.
Sancho
Aug 2015
#237
I see a lot of hot air. Ballanced Budget nonsence and vague suggestions. Where is Free Education for
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#259
We will have to agree to disagree. " The Financial Transaction Tax is a HORRIBLE idea " BS we had
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#263
There are lots of disagreements about the FTTs...including the chances that it would ever pass...
Sancho
Aug 2015
#265
Links are simply convenient...it's not like it's hard to check Hillary's record.
Sancho
Aug 2015
#234
Obama is not running this time so it is the present candidates experience and abilities.
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#28
This is why I am a Hillary supporter, she supports my ideals more than the other declared DNC
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#53
Better pay for women? Then why doesn't she support a federal minimum wage of $15/hr?
beam me up scottie
Aug 2015
#160
Yes, and George W was also elected, terrible president, did a lot of wrong things, took down two
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#49
The Opinions Of Others - Does Not List Actual Acomplishments - Only Allusions To Accomplishments
cantbeserious
Aug 2015
#247
Not opinions.. these are actual items of experience. ie.. Senator, Secretary of State, etc.
DCBob
Aug 2015
#248
I think Bernie supporters (and I am one) pooh pooh the electibility argument.
el_bryanto
Aug 2015
#36
The candidate of "hardworking people, white people" wil be better at protecting black communities?
eridani
Aug 2015
#195
That she was willing to say it to attack a black presidential candidate is appalling
eridani
Aug 2015
#270
I disagree with your interpretation, but I appreciate that you have raised an actual issue
Armstead
Aug 2015
#97
I think many of us who want a CLEAN immigration bill passed would support him because he WOULD too!
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#204
Why don't YOU come up with the issues on which Sanders is better than Clinton, okay?
George II
Aug 2015
#59
The entire premise of the OP is argumentative with an undertone of one with a chip on one's shoulder
George II
Aug 2015
#127
HRC is better at taking donations from Wall St CEOs and Corporate Super Packs
FreakinDJ
Aug 2015
#64
and can Sanders beat the Republicans without money? Can't deny that either!
VanillaRhapsody
Aug 2015
#65
Keep telling yourself Bernie can get elected on dreams and wishes alone...
VanillaRhapsody
Aug 2015
#74
Everyone dies. Nothing lasts. Therefore nothing ultimately matters.THAT'S REALITY.
Armstead
Aug 2015
#87
Just a visceral response to that ever-present dismissive putdown using that word
Armstead
Aug 2015
#110
Obviously under the circumstances....my "position" is that our opponents
VanillaRhapsody
Aug 2015
#116
I think you (guys) lose a lot of credibility with the "both parties the same" bullshit. Everytime I
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#169
See, this rhetoric (even this Yes- but...' REPLY) is ridiculous- you are focused on economics ONLY
bettyellen
Aug 2015
#171
I did not know a president was only supposed to represent the interest of a few, I thought it was
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#91
One difference is the number of years spent in Congress, 1991 to present for Bernie,
Thinkingabout
Aug 2015
#109
On issues, she is not better than Bernie. She has name recognition and money.
peacebird
Aug 2015
#123
The two are detached by the comma as was the part before and the part after that you didn't bold.
NCTraveler
Aug 2015
#233
Virtually none and if any rare thing like women's health it is a great record to
TheKentuckian
Aug 2015
#146
Bernie seems to be running against Obama's legacy and Hillary is running on solidifying it and
bravenak
Aug 2015
#178
Bernie said he thought Obama should be primaried. Look in the AA group. On Tobin's thread.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#184
I don't care why. Obama is the Democratic President of the Untited States and our first black one.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#188
Wow. More than 250 responses, yet no HRC supporter has been able to answer the question in the OP:
kath
Aug 2015
#256
On the issue of being able to win a national election, which is the most important issue
Recursion
Aug 2015
#271