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villager

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145. Ok. You did say "You earn it when you earn it and that can take time and a lot of effort"
Tue Aug 4, 2015, 09:19 PM
Aug 2015

But if you acknowledge that Clinton hasn't exactly earned it yet either (though it still begs an interesting discussion of what the earning process is, if not -- as per 1StrongBlackMan -- an acknowledged strong civil rights record), that, at least, has some balance to it.

BLM Representative on MSNBC [View all] Skwmom Aug 2015 OP
Or, maybe the BLM rep mcar Aug 2015 #1
What did Hillary say? RobertEarl Aug 2015 #4
What did Hillary say? On which day? 840high Aug 2015 #15
I do remember her 2008 campaign flops RobertEarl Aug 2015 #20
Careful with that petard... it can hoist in unexpected directions. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #250
If you support Hillary ... JoePhilly Aug 2015 #8
Exactly right Joe mcar Aug 2015 #43
The Tebow candidate fbc Aug 2015 #121
IT's called 'cognitive dissonance' AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #232
"If you support Hillary ... you are suspect. Period." ? Petrushka Aug 2015 #234
I saw it also billymayshere Aug 2015 #2
As they say, follow the money. Skwmom Aug 2015 #5
Which show was it? Sharpton or Matthews? And the BLM Rep. was__Thanks. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #162
Oh, that's clever...MSNBC...I get it! PatrickforO Aug 2015 #91
what you call disparaging may be a fact for other Supersedeas Aug 2015 #254
they do seem to be coming in pretty handy, for Hillary nt HFRN Aug 2015 #3
Reality is coming in handy for Hillary. nt SunSeeker Aug 2015 #163
I thought BLM was sincere. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #6
Did you really focus on the words? Skwmom Aug 2015 #12
Members of the BLM? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #21
It reminds of the old yarn that southern blacks in the Jim Crow south... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #24
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #32
I heard the same thing JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #51
Heard??? Hell ... HEARING! 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #75
Yes, we gotta throw BLM under the bus now. murielm99 Aug 2015 #93
I took a look ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #156
Me too Nance! SunSeeker Aug 2015 #164
BLM needs to show up at a Hillary event Scootaloo Aug 2015 #54
No dang kidding. Price is high enough to keep out the riff-raff and all the messiness involved nc4bo Aug 2015 #120
Oh yea and vote for memememe. nc4bo Aug 2015 #132
"Riff-raff"? oasis Aug 2015 #133
Yes, riff-raff. People like me and my husband! nc4bo Aug 2015 #144
Crystal clear. And oasis Aug 2015 #161
We're good oasis. Keyboard discussions nc4bo Aug 2015 #214
I can't tell you how much it saddens me about what you and your husband experienced. Stardust Aug 2015 #166
Stardust, no they are not hollow, you get it. Thank you! nc4bo Aug 2015 #217
I've been trying to think of ways we can eradicate racism, and here are some of my ideas... Stardust Aug 2015 #236
Really scary! Chemisse Aug 2015 #252
My money says that NEVER happens during this campaign. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #151
Why? Apparently, BLM approves of her message. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #153
if I recall, it was stated they would be "going after" all the candidates Scootaloo Aug 2015 #158
Apparently, from BLM's view ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #160
Ah. So, she CAN take black voters for granted. Scootaloo Aug 2015 #165
No. But okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #170
Yup. "#BLM" has backed off its prior position. Just for Clinton. Scootaloo Aug 2015 #181
And O'Malley ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #182
oh, #BLM decided to give O'Malley a pass, too? Scootaloo Aug 2015 #194
They don't appear to have confronted him since NRN ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #212
Well, they haven't confronted Sanders since NRN, either Scootaloo Aug 2015 #226
So you're going with the conspiracy theory, huh? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #227
Patrisse Cullors vowed that the organization would be going after all the candidates Scootaloo Aug 2015 #228
So conspiracy theory it is! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #230
Holding someone to their own words is not conspiracy theory, 1StrongBlackMan Scootaloo Aug 2015 #231
Hillary as a former FLOTUS is under Secret Service protection azurnoir Aug 2015 #203
Will never happen AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #233
BLM is losing credibility in my view. Maedhros Aug 2015 #7
Well ain't that peculiar? Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #9
This is classic Clinton politics ram2008 Aug 2015 #10
Bernie was marching for civil rights when Hillary was a Goldwater Girl HFRN Aug 2015 #16
So did Joe Lieberman. And? Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #38
So did Joe Lieberman and Charlton Heston And? Nt DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #102
And she was trying to get assualt weapons banned when Bernie was trying to protect them. William769 Aug 2015 #53
And yet the Brady Campaign gives him a 100% positive lifetime score. progressoid Aug 2015 #119
"Weird" indeed, since Sanders voted against the Brady Bill. SunSeeker Aug 2015 #167
Dang.That's a great score for a "gun nut" like Bernie. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #206
"Sanders Votes for Background Checks, Assault Weapons Ban" beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #204
bart... SidDithers Aug 2015 #74
... HFRN Aug 2015 #187
Dang!! What a cute kid!!!nt bravenak Aug 2015 #202
I'm glad I didn't see it 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #11
It is sad. n/t Skwmom Aug 2015 #14
Just because BLM supports a cause in which I believe strongly, Maedhros Aug 2015 #37
I didn't want to say that, because I can't prove it, not yet. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #49
These are the possibilities: Maedhros Aug 2015 #69
I wish you, or someone, writes an article soon to shed more light on this stuff 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #76
gobear10's post is the gold standard. Maedhros Aug 2015 #198
You forgot to queue the conspiracy sound track. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #78
So...no possibility AT ALL that Bernie was at fault for his own actions R B Garr Aug 2015 #219
I was discussing the incident itself, not Bernie's reactions. Maedhros Aug 2015 #229
Bernie WAS given an opportunity to respond; he did respond. R B Garr Aug 2015 #240
If they really called Bernie a phony sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #13
They didn't talk about O'Malley. But the host of netroots Skwmom Aug 2015 #17
Esp. interesting given O'Malley's abysmal record w/ Blacks in Baltimore 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #31
Except ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #68
You make an awful lot of statements speaking for "Black folks." When did this monolith Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #85
Did you not read my "anecdotal experience" part? That's called a "qualifer." ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #96
When did you understand how black people feel? kwassa Aug 2015 #159
I can tell you this. I don't know what white males think Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #168
+1 840high Aug 2015 #19
Black Lives Matter is a large movement with no actual leaders Report1212 Aug 2015 #18
Three black feminists founded BLM. Skwmom Aug 2015 #23
Notice that they seem to be more concerned with building their brand recognition, Maedhros Aug 2015 #60
Big difference between founders and leaders Report1212 Aug 2015 #66
In June 2015 she says, 'All Lives Matter' in black Ferguson Church udbcrzy2 Aug 2015 #94
Clinton mouths some words and voilà whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #22
Clinton will do the same that Obama has done while in office to curtail racism.. frylock Aug 2015 #101
Exactly whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #110
Obama did NOTHING?! No communication, no pushing of laws.. "brothers keepers"!? NOTHING?! uponit7771 Aug 2015 #199
Because it must be a conspiracy when someone disagrees with you (or your candidate) ... Right? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #25
My candidate is Bernie, sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #26
I don't know that BLM is ignoring O'Malley ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #34
Pssst I heard Clinton JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #56
LOL. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #84
Only a "nickle"?! Come on Hillary! Cha Aug 2015 #112
'Well, I can't be bought, but I can be had.' You just lost 5¢! I'm telling the Gio! n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #116
It's really not hard to see why one sector of the left in this country never gets anywhere. stevenleser Aug 2015 #27
Well ... He said what he was supposed to say ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #36
Tone deaf mcar Aug 2015 #47
And the Clintons earned it... how, exactly? villager Aug 2015 #64
Bainsbane and 1strongblackman explain it down thread. She listens and seems to get it stevenleser Aug 2015 #129
Since it was your assertion, I'd love to know what was behind it -- i.e., the "earning," or not villager Aug 2015 #136
It wasn't my assertion. stevenleser Aug 2015 #140
Ok. You did say "You earn it when you earn it and that can take time and a lot of effort" villager Aug 2015 #145
There are a lot of POC still angry about the comments in 2008. Some percentage will never forgive stevenleser Aug 2015 #218
Maybe you should give them the benefit of your genius Armstead Aug 2015 #72
Ha. This group wouldn't listen. They think they know everything better than everyone else stevenleser Aug 2015 #131
Of course....he marched with MLK in 1965! As you say, what more do you want? George II Aug 2015 #109
Yes, and look at the priorities BainsBane Aug 2015 #195
AMEN!! Kerry tried to the same thing, I've been saying it for months that Kerry dropped 2% with... uponit7771 Aug 2015 #200
This is the kind of rhetoric people used when the LGBT community rejected "civil unions" DemocraticWing Aug 2015 #241
No it's the opposite. The group demanding rights and to be heard is the one that needs defending stevenleser Aug 2015 #242
You were suggesting it wasn't just people supporting Bernie, beyond a campaign. DemocraticWing Aug 2015 #244
I guess Bernie is just going to have to win without that guy's vote. SolutionisSolidarity Aug 2015 #28
Apparently, his record on civil rights sucks whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #35
No ... His record on civil rights is good ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #42
Um... whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #46
Meals come from economic justice, not social justice. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #77
When you are allowed a seat in the restaurant. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #86
Let's call the restaurant 1SBM's Moving Goalpost. I like it. nt DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #105
Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #39
So, as a candidate without a Democratic pedigree, SolutionisSolidarity Aug 2015 #55
Your belief is correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #73
Ok, I misunderstood your point. SolutionisSolidarity Aug 2015 #197
Yep. Cleita Aug 2015 #29
#BlackLivesMatter could be the downfall of Bernie's campaign Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #30
Don't you read DU?!? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #44
#BlackLivesMatter represents all black people like Anonymous represents all computer users. fbc Aug 2015 #124
More BLM bashing. Because this worked out so great for team Sanders the first time around... DanTex Aug 2015 #33
Yep. It is absolutely adorable watching these people in action. Number23 Aug 2015 #40
Any minute now ... I expect someone to just say ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #50
I have no doubt that's part of the plan. And the truth of the matter is is that the majority Number23 Aug 2015 #57
Barack Obama and his campaign figured it out...twice (2008 & 2012) Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #67
Posted without comment ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #82
This interview has bothered me from when it was first published. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #178
I posted a comment, comparing ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #185
You make a good point. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #192
For Webb and Sanders, cringe-worthy on two different levels ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #211
You know it's coming! Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #63
No problemo! There's a ready-made group who shares his vision, strangely enough. Or most of it: freshwest Aug 2015 #114
one poster practically told me that lunamagica Aug 2015 #128
I'm not surprised ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #142
I've read something of those tone also, Bernie can win the "disaffected" vote and bring in uponit7771 Aug 2015 #201
That was said about 6 weeks ago nt. BainsBane Aug 2015 #149
I co-sign this post JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #58
Girl... this place. Number23 Aug 2015 #61
They crack me up sometimes JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #65
Now you got some "person of color" shitting all over them in another OP Number23 Aug 2015 #71
But if only you black people would understand when we whitesplain to ya. AllFieldsRequired Aug 2015 #80
I like to think JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #83
Me too! 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #87
All one can hope for is that this sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #88
Yes, my post IN RESPONSE to the "person of color" who called out #BLM is the one that's causing Number23 Aug 2015 #98
What are you using quote marks for? romanic Aug 2015 #207
Didn't I tell you to buzz off? Or was the time out you got recently not quite enough of a hint? Number23 Aug 2015 #208
+1000 ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #70
"So what's your tactic? Accuse a group of black activists drawing attention to the slaughter of Cha Aug 2015 #122
I'm just going to silently watch them ignore my advice and lose.nt bravenak Aug 2015 #172
In fairness Bernie and O'Malley were not given time at the town hall still_one Aug 2015 #41
+10 n/t whathehell Aug 2015 #52
I'm a strong O'Malley supporter JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #97
you assessment is correct. I am not sure how many are aware of the meetings he had still_one Aug 2015 #113
Very true. He also released a comprehensive plan detailing criminal justice reform FSogol Aug 2015 #216
They are reading from the same script. It's called human decency! William769 Aug 2015 #45
Please elaborate on how Bernie Sanders is not a decent human being. SolutionisSolidarity Aug 2015 #62
Your strawman will not help your candidate. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #134
Human decency, something Sanders never "tried"? arcane1 Aug 2015 #79
See my #134 above nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #135
In other words, nothing. arcane1 Aug 2015 #154
I agree, your strawman amounts to nothing. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #174
Hear, hear! George II Aug 2015 #92
Absolutely Bill.. that's some "script" they have there.. Compassion! It's all a "conspiracy"! Cha Aug 2015 #100
Who was the representative and what show was it? nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #48
This OP makes me sick. nt artislife Aug 2015 #59
You know why? Clinton LISTENS BainsBane Aug 2015 #81
Sadly ... I'm starting to believe Bernie can't get to where he needs to be with BLM/AAs ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #90
Please elaborate. frylock Aug 2015 #106
Read the thread ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #111
I've read the thread.. frylock Aug 2015 #126
Why are you so angry? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #141
I thinks it's rather JackInGreen Aug 2015 #147
What questions??? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #150
Why are you so angry? ... bahrbearian Aug 2015 #169
LOL ... I'm not. Notice the absence of profanity, personal attacks and the like. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #179
Yes, please answer those questions bobbobbins01 Aug 2015 #196
Exactly Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #210
That is the problem BainsBane Aug 2015 #143
Clinton LISTENS for a mere $2700 a head. frylock Aug 2015 #104
We need to have a DU gofundme type thing, pick a representative and crash a HRC nc4bo Aug 2015 #123
Sanders has been doing everything BLM asked him to do, and then some. arcane1 Aug 2015 #107
Your tactic is not working. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #130
Well, you certainly burned me! arcane1 Aug 2015 #152
And you are still not helping Bernie. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #173
But you are! arcane1 Aug 2015 #175
Oddly enough, more than you are in this thread. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #177
You can keep repeating the same nonsense every day BainsBane Aug 2015 #247
I never said "Clinton alone is responsible for the nature of campaign finance in America" arcane1 Aug 2015 #248
Clinton listens to MONEY ibegurpard Aug 2015 #115
Because BLM is a all about big money? BainsBane Aug 2015 #245
Yes, Hillary has been doing that and she's winning over more people.. these tweets are from Cha Aug 2015 #118
Humility BainsBane Aug 2015 #146
Humility and Empathy. Cha Aug 2015 #189
I think Sanders listens too. DemocraticWing Aug 2015 #243
The ONLY ones characterizing Bernie as an enemy of BLM BainsBane Aug 2015 #246
They often are. Nt NCTraveler Aug 2015 #89
The minute Clinton sews up the nomination, Black Lives won't Matter so much anymore tularetom Aug 2015 #95
History suggests otherwise. Bill Clinton was called the first black President somewhat tongue in stevenleser Aug 2015 #148
We'll see, won't we? tularetom Aug 2015 #171
Yes, except my opinion has history with the Clintons in its favor stevenleser Aug 2015 #176
Clinton really included minorities in the mass incarceration boom, that's for sure. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #183
And I am sure minorities factor that in in their evaluation of him. Nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #184
And having it screamed at us like we did it to ourselves is very helpful to Bernie.nt bravenak Aug 2015 #193
Our prison system thanks you for your support. GeorgeGist Aug 2015 #235
I thought the same thing moobu2 Aug 2015 #99
gosh, i'm shocked to read this. frylock Aug 2015 #108
I've been hidden while talking about this, but the BIAS is unfounded and unprecedented. orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #103
If a group feels their support hasn't been earned, it hasn't been earned. It's up to a candidate stevenleser Aug 2015 #138
This message was self-deleted by its author orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #239
You talking BIAS?? You called us black folks 'usurpers'.nt bravenak Aug 2015 #180
Seriously? Wow. On a more general note B, I can't believe we're here again stevenleser Aug 2015 #186
I cannot BELIEVE this muthafuckingshit. bravenak Aug 2015 #188
It's like a moronic, racially condescending f-----g Groundhogs Day. stevenleser Aug 2015 #190
After all the good work I did for them? I'm LIVID. I fucking asked those muthafuckas to stop this bravenak Aug 2015 #191
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #223
Yes. God complex. bravenak Aug 2015 #224
I'm not talking about your feelings ibegurpard Aug 2015 #225
I have charisma. bravenak Aug 2015 #238
there seems to be this ridiculous notion ibegurpard Aug 2015 #117
In his favor nc4bo Aug 2015 #125
that's why the new slam is "it does't matter if he marched with MLK" MisterP Aug 2015 #251
Yes. Bernie Sanders never pandered before and he isn't doing so now. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #205
The claim of "Phony rhetoric" in the face of NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #127
They support Hillary. They are campaigning for her. The rest is subterfuge. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #137
What was the show? JackInGreen Aug 2015 #139
I really want to watch the segment and see what everyone is talking about. Cheese Sandwich Aug 2015 #155
Agreed JackInGreen Aug 2015 #157
this is an amazing admission that Bernie's campaign takes precedence over the movement bigtree Aug 2015 #209
Oh spare me ibegurpard Aug 2015 #220
I won't 'spare you' an inch bigtree Aug 2015 #221
you're welcome to regard things any way you wish ibegurpard Aug 2015 #222
I suppose any black American can claim to be a BLM leader, and our bought-and-paid-for ... Scuba Aug 2015 #213
For pity's sake, that person is only one member of BLM. Vattel Aug 2015 #215
The center-rightist coopted the antiwar movement to serve their cause even though betterdemsonly Aug 2015 #237
And if I didn't know better, I'd would really think you're exploiting a schism that doesn't exist... LanternWaste Aug 2015 #249
MSM is pro HRC and anti Bernie PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #253
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