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In reply to the discussion: A Bernie Sanders Supporter And ‘Rockefeller Republican’ Call To Action [View all]dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)13. Now that is an excellent question
I read the article with that in mind. The guy seems a little confused to me, but I support a lot of what he says.
I support social programs.
It just makes sense, even from a conservative point of view. Why? Because you have to consider the second and third order effects of NOT creating and having these programs. My first example to pick is always the Nutrition Assistance Program. It comes at a whopping cost of $78 billion. I support it as a conservative. Why? Because I dont buy Tea Party talking points and know that second and third order effects of not financing that program will be devastating and actually strain the system we have in even more costly ways. Right now poor children and the elderly get food from that program. It is how they get the nutrition they need to survive and keep a healthy lifestyle.
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Many Democrats tell me to turn tail and jump onto their party. Many Independents tell me the same thing as well. I tell you no. If Democrats really want to win not only the Bernie Sanders election in 2016, but many state, local, and national elections as well then you need to reach out to your friends who are Rockefeller Republicans. Reach out to the former-Republicans-turned-Independents. Stop insulting and degrading them. We can be allies. Just imagine the overthrow of the power elite if the 41% of registered voters who align as independents went back to the Republican party as Rockefeller Republicans. With the numbers of Democrats and the minority of Rockefeller Republicans we could hold a majority again in many states across this nation.
We could begin reform the likes of which hasnt been seen or felt since the days of FDR. We wont agree on every issue, but were also not insane like the Tea Party.
Ultimately, its up to you. You can either be the arbiter of change or the inhibitor of progress.
I don't really get the Rockefeller Republican thing (maybe he believes in "fiscal conservatism"?), but I have long felt that the people have been falsely divided by TPTB, the wealthy benefit while the people bicker amongst thmselves instead of joining together and mobilizing against TPTB. I support pretty much everything the guy said in the article, so given that, I absolutely welcome him and people like him to make common cause with. We won't agree on everything. People on DU don't agree on everything, not by a long shot.
I know of a former Rockefeller Republican, running for POTUS as a Democrat, and it isn't Sanders, my guess (I don't know) is it's your candidate.
Bernie's as solidly grounded in leftist positions as any major party candidate I've ever had the opportunity to vote for, and he isn't a "finger to the wind" kind of guy, he has deep convictions and a long history to back it up. So I'm not buying your concern.
Plenty of people are starting to wake up and realize they've been lied to by both parties, who have been captured by monied interests.
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A Bernie Sanders Supporter And ‘Rockefeller Republican’ Call To Action [View all]
kenn3d
Aug 2015
OP
every one of my republican family that voted in jan brewer and allowed the racist shit
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#3
i dunno, while kicked off the board i read an OP about dancin' with the people that brung 'em.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#5
of course he has. hence an independent. and he did it well as an independent.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#11
He's doing it better now that he is getting his message out to Dems, Repubs, Independents,
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#18
What?? 'sanders needs open primaries to get his base in to vote in democratic primaries'?????
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#27
"closed primaries" means only registered Dems can vote in the Democratic Primary
emulatorloo
Aug 2015
#42
that would be the 87% blacks, and like 92% latinos and single women you speak of?
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#32
ridiculous. and should be a hide though it will not. poster was talking about getting AZ repugs.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#12
i stated facts. that would not be swiftboating. we cant look at the fact it is repugs, that voted
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#17
i am slandering my relative by saying they voted for jan brewer who implemented bigot law?
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#25
I was in Az when Obama was running in 2008. Many of those Repubs voted for Obama. Jan had a photo op
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#19
Hillary's talking about getting Az Repubs also. Did you know that no Dem can win without
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#29
we would be talking about the general election and not the democratic primary, correct?
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#33
i feel he is pandering to him when he states that we should applaud that blacks have accomplished
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#40
i really do not bother when someone starts out in this manner. i mean, why should i participate?
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#56
no it is not. we are talking his campaign. he exclusively spoke about economic equality.
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#57
yes. they are very clear so why are you adding imaginary sound ect.... he is running a campaign
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#61
You mention gay people? Let's take a look at Obama's outreach to the Right, 2008...
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#55
if that person is all that, then why in the world are they republicans or vote republican?
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#2
So you don't think Hillary should be trying to get the Republican Women's vote? And you think no
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#20
We already have Rockerfeller Republicans'. Their called Third Way and Centrist Dems. I don't care
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#23
That's what bewilders me. The GOP platform has long been anti-feminist and anti-social programs.
4lbs
Aug 2015
#28
Unfortunately, that does seem to be the case many times. I've talked to Republicans throughout my
4lbs
Aug 2015
#51
Thanks - I'll try that now to offer some additional perspective to the theme of my OP
kenn3d
Aug 2015
#52
You can also edit your OP to include the "excerpt" tag, so future readers won't be confused. nt
tblue37
Aug 2015
#54
sounds to me the rockefeller repug has all these liberal social ustice stance, but $ trumps
seabeyond
Aug 2015
#63