2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie may be more of a Democrat than the Democrats. [View all]jtuck004
(15,882 posts)I don't.
The people's union, one big union, the Industrial Union, the IWW - it was kind of fluid, but THAT labor movement, which sought control, was not content to be subservient to business owners...had already been tortured, murdered, killed and jailed out of existence with the collaboration of government, the AF of L, and business by the time you choose to start counting. That's convenient. For you.
What you call "winning" was more collaboration. And if I might direct your attention to the bolded phrase below:
" First Red Scare"
A "Red Scare" is a somewhat like today in which one group chooses a non-existent scary thing to divide and subjugate others. There was no communist menace - it was business using this as a scare tactic against labor.
It was very effective. Got you, as you keep proving. And I bet you didn't feel a thing. Don't worry, it got hundreds of millions of Americans, and still does.
Labor had already lost a lot by the time you start keeping track. Maybe too much.
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"In the 1910s and early '20s, the IWW achieved many of their short-term goals, particularly in the American west, and cut across traditional guild and union lines to organize workers in a variety of trades and industries. At their peak in August 1917, IWW membership was over 150,000.[9] However, the extremely high rate of IWW membership turnover during this era (estimated at 133% per decade) makes it difficult to state membership totals with any certainty, as workers tended to join the IWW in large numbers for relatively short periods (e.g., during labor strikes and periods of generalized economic distress).[10]
Nonetheless, membership declined dramatically in the 1920s due to several factors. There were conflicts with other labor groups, particularly the American Federation of Labor (AFL) which regarded the IWW as too radical while the IWW regarded the AFL as too staid and conservative.[11] Membership also declined in the wake of government crackdowns on radical, anarchist and socialist groups during the First Red Scare after WWI. The most decisive factor in the decline in IWW membership and influence, however, was a 1924 schism, from which the IWW never fully recovered."
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-wiki, and about a dozen really good history biographies, autobiographies, and descriptions.