That's their MO.. has been for awhile. They call you a "serial disrruptor" because you have a (Reply #141)

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141. That's their MO.. has been for awhile. They call you a "serial disrruptor" because you have a

different point of view. They can't handle that.

As a another poster said.. "You just called someone a race baiter because you didn't have a logical point to make."

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Why didn't Bernie get Vermont to pass single payer? [View all]	hill2016	Aug 2015	OP
:facepalm:	Dawgs	Aug 2015	#1
'grasping at straws' 'scraping the bottom of a barrel'	Rosa Luxemburg	Aug 2015	#154
uh, because he isn't king of Vermont and isn't even a part of state government	cali	Aug 2015	#2
Now why would you wanna throw logic into something like this?	senz	Aug 2015	#95
Fair enough: to what extent did he try to help get the Shumlin's State initiative passed?	brooklynite	Aug 2015	#103
Sanders lent significant support to the effort	cali	Aug 2015	#126
Some states have to small of a population to make it cost effective.	Snotcicles	Aug 2015	#104
You ALWAYS have to come in	MuseRider	Aug 2015	#124
I've been hearing so much	hill2016	Aug 2015	#170
you don't know what you are talking about. as per usual, hilly supporter.	cali	Aug 2015	#191
I'd say that's more the responsibility of Governor Shumlin.	Maedhros	Aug 2015	#3
he's such a turd. he only got elected because of his promises of single payer.	cali	Aug 2015	#6
But obviously he tried, he didn't just talk about it. And he recognized the problem of funding....	George II	Aug 2015	#94
that is a matter for debate. his administration screwed up in a major way	cali	Aug 2015	#118
So Bernie couldn't even rally the troops in tiny Vermont, but....	SonderWoman	Aug 2015	#53
lol	cali	Aug 2015	#60
Even though he's not governor, a state's Senator should have at least a little influence....	George II	Aug 2015	#98
good question	hill2016	Aug 2015	#171
oh and welcome to du, new poster.	cali	Aug 2015	#4
Why didn't Obama?	Fearless	Aug 2015	#5
Going out on a limb with little to back me up.	SouthernProgressive	Aug 2015	#7
partially right.	cali	Aug 2015	#16
They do amazing work in Pasco and it makes a big difference.	SouthernProgressive	Aug 2015	#25
yes. Community Health center do great work in preventative medicine	cali	Aug 2015	#46
We are a country that moves incrementally on issues	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#18
Change does happen slow and that is by original design.	SouthernProgressive	Aug 2015	#27
Do you understand that we have varying levels of sovereign governments in this country?	morningfog	Aug 2015	#8
My senators and congresspeople secure funding....	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#11
That wasn't the question asked.	morningfog	Aug 2015	#14
Are you calling me a "race baiter"	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#19
I am not calling you a race baiter.	morningfog	Aug 2015	#30
Glad you walked that back	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#32
I didn't walk anything back.	morningfog	Aug 2015	#41
Morning, when the fog clears up, let us know.	Nitram	Aug 2015	#49
It was an asinine post from a serial disruptor.	morningfog	Aug 2015	#50
All that one ever has is personal attacks. When I see that name I expect it. then it doubled down	Cha	Aug 2015	#140
They spend more time on forced vacations and	morningfog	Aug 2015	#142
She IS a serial disruptor	short circuit	Aug 2015	#150
...	SidDithers	Aug 2015	#158
That's their MO.. has been for awhile. They call you a "serial disrruptor" because you have a	Cha	Aug 2015	#141
Case in point.	short circuit	Aug 2015	#151
"You just called someone a race baiter because you didn't have a logical point to make."	Cha	Aug 2015	#155
I have nothing against censorship	short circuit	Aug 2015	#156
I can see that.. an alternate point of view is all the majority of DU needs now to Censor Voices	Cha	Aug 2015	#157
Plenty of posters manage to express a wide variety of views	morningfog	Aug 2015	#164
Maggie is great.. and a Hillary Supporter. now the poster who was calling her a "serial disruptor"	Cha	Aug 2015	#167
Um, you've been here a week.	Bobbie Jo	Aug 2015	#163
And, now he's gone Bobby Jo..	Cha	Aug 2015	#166
heh	Bobbie Jo	Aug 2015	#168
Yeah, not very optimistic..	Cha	Aug 2015	#169
Well your CT is Wrong Short Circuit.. Maggie is a Hillary Supporter.. Maybe it's you who is the	Cha	Aug 2015	#165
And Bernie secured waivers for Vermont.	cali	Aug 2015	#17
But no federal funding	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#22
In most states the Federal Representatives and Senators still have a lot of influence...	George II	Aug 2015	#149
hm..	hill2016	Aug 2015	#172
Is that what I said? Welcome back!	morningfog	Aug 2015	#192
Because he has minimal influence on the Dem party there	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#9
Or better yet	AgingAmerican	Aug 2015	#21
+ 1	senz	Aug 2015	#100
no, that would be quite wrong, mags.	cali	Aug 2015	#31
ha!!!	wendylaroux	Aug 2015	#38
I would use other descriptive words.	cali	Aug 2015	#40
i know:(	wendylaroux	Aug 2015	#45
Tell that to the Bernie fans	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#48
well as a hill acolyte, you know about fandom for a political candidate	cali	Aug 2015	#68
Seems I have to tell you this every single day....	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#72
lol. I ain't buying and neither are most people here	cali	Aug 2015	#75
^^^THIS^^^	beam me up scottie	Aug 2015	#135
BS himself said.. there weren't enough votes in Congress for Single Payer but too many	Cha	Aug 2015	#146
yup	hill2016	Aug 2015	#175
As mayor of Berlington?	AgingAmerican	Aug 2015	#10
as an influential political figure	hill2016	Aug 2015	#173
You might ask Governor Shumlin. That would be more appropriate.	Vinca	Aug 2015	#12
Post removed	Post removed	Aug 2015	#13
Damn you!	tularetom	Aug 2015	#15
This has been posted before. It is just being recycled.	djean111	Aug 2015	#20
It's not stupid at all	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#24
It's recycled bullshit because they have little else.	AtomicKitten	Aug 2015	#28
Plenty of other long-term posters who are Clinton supporters have said the same thing (nt)	jeff47	Aug 2015	#34
What control does he hold	fredamae	Aug 2015	#23
Do you know any of them?	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#26
I do. Bernie is very well liked in the legislature by dems	cali	Aug 2015	#33
Ask Shulmin if Bernie is powerlesss on large ball state politics	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#36
you are contradicting yourself	cali	Aug 2015	#43
I'm not contradicting myself	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#44
Can you show me an example	fredamae	Aug 2015	#54
Well ask them then	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#61
Ask whom	fredamae	Aug 2015	#62
Bernie Sanders' Single Payer Vermont	seabeyond	Aug 2015	#29
sigh. false hillaryite hit piece from some asswipe who gets	cali	Aug 2015	#39
daileykos isnt ok? what ever. i will listen to him during debates. i have not heard it addressed	seabeyond	Aug 2015	#58
so you approve of every critical Hillary diary posted there	cali	Aug 2015	#70
Isn't Sanders advocating Medicare for all under the federal government?	ALBliberal	Aug 2015	#186
yeah	hill2016	Aug 2015	#174
The same reason it probably won't pass nationally...	SonderWoman	Aug 2015	#35
Because it costs so much	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#42
Not to mention the votes. Even with Dem majority...	SonderWoman	Aug 2015	#51
This is the very reason to enact a single-payer system.	Ron Green	Aug 2015	#63
Taking 18% off the GDP away is not viable	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#65
What???	Ron Green	Aug 2015	#71
it's bizzaro time.	cali	Aug 2015	#76
What part do you not understand?	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#87
I don't understand how spending much LESS than 18% of GDP	Ron Green	Aug 2015	#96
Because as we've moved from a manufacturing economy....	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#101
Well, that's a different way to look at it. Kind of like	Ron Green	Aug 2015	#138
As I said, every modern Dem president has cut military spending....	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#139
for profit health care is not a major employer.	Warren Stupidity	Aug 2015	#159
Are we dumber than every other advancced nation on earth?	Armstead	Aug 2015	#56
They make it work with much smaller populations and...	SonderWoman	Aug 2015	#59
I will stand by my original point	Armstead	Aug 2015	#67
I believe we should continue to work towards progress in this area, while...	SonderWoman	Aug 2015	#73
Well you're opening up a whole can of stuff I haven't time to go into here now	Armstead	Aug 2015	#78
Its not the believing in it part that is unrealistic, its...	SonderWoman	Aug 2015	#84
As i said above, there's a whole lotta aspects and levels to this...	Armstead	Aug 2015	#91
Yep, it's easy to afford socialist programs	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#69
Reducing that is part of the agenda	Armstead	Aug 2015	#81
what is the problem with socialist programs??	Angry Dragon	Aug 2015	#82
A country as rich as the US cannot afford a military and health care coverage?	morningfog	Aug 2015	#85
We are 15 trillion in debt	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#88
Yet we can afford the largest military in the world but cannot afford healthcare for our people?	morningfog	Aug 2015	#90
Hey, I'm all for military cuts and....	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#92
You made a lot of assumptions based on nothing.	morningfog	Aug 2015	#112
Again you put words in my mouth	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#116
You are having a rambling conversation in your head to which I am not privy.	morningfog	Aug 2015	#121
universal healthcare saves money and boosts the economy	Warren Stupidity	Aug 2015	#161
lol -- you sound just like a Republican!	senz	Aug 2015	#105
How so? Cons love being the world's police	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#109
All of the other modern industrial nations have their own military forces.	Warren Stupidity	Aug 2015	#160
The VA is larger than many national health care systems	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#79
How's that working out?	SonderWoman	Aug 2015	#83
In comparison to what?	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#86
It's working so well they are outsourcing some of it to private corps	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#89
Health care is NEVER going to be efficient or economically rational	Armstead	Aug 2015	#93
So how do you replace the contribution to GDP?	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#99
It will always contribute to the GDP	Armstead	Aug 2015	#108
Sure it can be done - just not on a dime	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#111
It's not new issue but needs a new starting point	Armstead	Aug 2015	#114
The ACA was the new starting point in 2010	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#119
I appreciate the need to contain costs	Armstead	Aug 2015	#128
We are approaching 90% insured	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#130
In my real life....	Armstead	Aug 2015	#134
Chin up - we have made progress	MaggieD	Aug 2015	#137
Outsourcing is the republican way of pretending that defunding programs is a solution.	Warren Stupidity	Aug 2015	#162
We're already paying for it.	jeff47	Aug 2015	#117
hopefully	hill2016	Aug 2015	#176
Um Vermont DID pass single payer but then discovered they couldn't realistically fund it.	phleshdef	Aug 2015	#37
Sorry, I said the same thing in post #104. Some people don't have a clue how insurance works	Snotcicles	Aug 2015	#115
actually their smallness is likely helpful	dsc	Aug 2015	#131
No, there really isn't enough income coming into Vermont.	phleshdef	Aug 2015	#188
funny	hill2016	Aug 2015	#177
Its not about size as much as it is about having enough people to produce enough revenue.	phleshdef	Aug 2015	#189
Hill 2016, you've hit the nail on the head.	Nitram	Aug 2015	#47
He wasn't governor	AgingAmerican	Aug 2015	#52
So he couldn't even rally the troops in his home state?	SonderWoman	Aug 2015	#55
He has never held state office	AgingAmerican	Aug 2015	#66
and	hill2016	Aug 2015	#179
Bernie is a US Senator, not a Vermont State Senator.	Zorra	Aug 2015	#57
sorry, as a person who actually lives here, that's bullshit.	cali	Aug 2015	#74
when you post an inflammatory op and then don't respond that	cali	Aug 2015	#64
Unfortunately, Bernie didn't have any input at the state level	DissidentVoice	Aug 2015	#77
no, it wasn't the right which really is weak here. it was Shumlin.	cali	Aug 2015	#80
Did Bernie even try? A speech? Anything?	SonderWoman	Aug 2015	#107
yes. it really was mostly shumlin's fault. And it's complicated	cali	Aug 2015	#120
so	hill2016	Aug 2015	#180
Just Asking Questions	Capt. Obvious	Aug 2015	#97
First cousin of Just Saying...	beam me up scottie	Aug 2015	#129
Because it probably involves people having to pay for things with taxes	taught_me_patience	Aug 2015	#102
Hey I don't mind paying taxes that go toward improving the General Welfare.	senz	Aug 2015	#110
I don't mind either.	taught_me_patience	Aug 2015	#113
The rich should pay their fair share..	frylock	Aug 2015	#133
oh wow	hill2016	Aug 2015	#181
You really need to get a new act. This one has become stale and predictable.	arcane1	Aug 2015	#106
Because nobody has come up with a way to pay for it	Recursion	Aug 2015	#122
We're already paying for it.	Romulox	Aug 2015	#123
Well, no, we're not. Lots of people go without medical care	Recursion	Aug 2015	#125
Doctor salaries make up only a small part of the difference.	DanTex	Aug 2015	#143
For the same reason Hillary didn't in NY or even the USA -- where she had two chances. n/t	nichomachus	Aug 2015	#127
Because he's a US Senator and not part of his state's government?	The Velveteen Ocelot	Aug 2015	#132
I keep hearing about this thing called	hill2016	Aug 2015	#182
I have never known my own US senators to get involved or make statements,	The Velveteen Ocelot	Aug 2015	#187
One rec...enough said.	artislife	Aug 2015	#136
Hey Now I was told that they are not into this for the "popuplarity contest"	MoveIt	Aug 2015	#147
Another Hillary Clinton supporter shoots an arrow into the sky...	cherokeeprogressive	Aug 2015	#144
Probably for the same reason Clinton passed Stop and Frisk to harass black folks in New York.	TheKentuckian	Aug 2015	#145
Someone doesn't understand what Senator responsibilities are, look that up please.	timesup	Aug 2015	#148
And plenty don't understand the limitations of presidential powers.	BlueCaliDem	Aug 2015	#185
Why didn't Obama pass single payer as part of ACA?	HassleCat	Aug 2015	#152
Why didn't Hillary get NY to pass stricter gun laws?	Motown_Johnny	Aug 2015	#153
He lost the VT Gov's race	underthematrix	Aug 2015	#178
his bully pulpit	hill2016	Aug 2015	#183
It seems to me VT loved him as their	underthematrix	Aug 2015	#184
Why didn't Hillary get any health care bill passed?	Ino	Aug 2015	#190
Why did Hillary fail in her attempt to get any health care passed?	Live and Learn	Aug 2015	#193
Your handle is the answer to your question.	Nitram	Sep 2015	#194
simple, he isn't the governor of Vermont.	WI_DEM	Sep 2015	#195

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