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MannyGoldstein

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40. Woof! Well it's possible that a later-model Hillary 7.x could bravely come out
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:56 AM
Sep 2015

against cruelty to dogs, but there are great risks. Dogs have very large droppings that can be seen in public - the optics aren't good.

Good point. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #1
started out slagging Saul Alinsky reddread Sep 2015 #5
Started out her career by wanting to be a corporate lawyer. Not with any activist activity. LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #20
Not just any corporate lawyer, but BCCI's lawyer. leveymg Sep 2015 #37
Yup. It's very Modern-Progressivey of her isn't it? HappyPlace Sep 2015 #45
The term was tainted by Woodrow Wilson - HRC is the 21st Century version leveymg Sep 2015 #61
Yes indeed. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #65
Judging by her email name HDR22, she does not even use Clinton, just her maiden name. LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #84
What's the "22"? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #97
I guess she felt she needed a number. Me I try for my full name and have gotten it LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #108
Some of the previous numbers were given out to staffers. leveymg Sep 2015 #126
Thread winner. hifiguy Sep 2015 #118
All they have to do is re define the words. zeemike Sep 2015 #73
Remind me ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #47
Here's her bio leveymg Sep 2015 #52
Her early lawyer work was ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #59
Are you implying she continues to be employed by or pursue that early employer's agenda? leveymg Sep 2015 #66
Just a diversion from the subject at hand. Fuddnik Sep 2015 #74
No that is not my implication ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #136
A lot of people learn what is wrong from early jobs and want to correct them, some LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #88
I would say, most ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #137
And, when you are starting out... PosterChild Sep 2015 #178
Maybe that is why she is such an advocate for consumers against the banking industry now passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #170
Didn't know Warren was running for president. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #90
She's not ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #138
Then what is her relevance here? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #145
The relevence is obvious.... PosterChild Sep 2015 #181
Deflect away. merrily Sep 2015 #98
How is that a deflection? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #139
The thread is about Hillary. merrily Sep 2015 #148
You seem to miss the point.., PosterChild Sep 2015 #182
His Reply 47 fits the definition of deflection perfectly and the subthread did go OT, merrily Sep 2015 #188
Well, given her current campaign supporters Kelvin Mace Sep 2015 #154
Touché. Your work here is done! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #103
It just I hate this DU bullshit ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #140
Hillary"For goodness sakes, you can't be a lawyer if you don't represent banks.". Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #58
Hard to understand why anyone's gears would get so grinded based on that 24 year old propaganda? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #67
Because ...... FDR, JFK, Wellstone, Bobby, Jerry Brown Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #72
Just a minor clarification. hifiguy Sep 2015 #120
Not sure , did fdr or jfk ever... PosterChild Sep 2015 #180
It's only propaganda when you don't like the facts reported. leveymg Sep 2015 #79
then Warren early career is a none starter roguevalley Sep 2015 #95
Was Warren's husband running for president in 92? Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #100
actually, my remark was to remove Warren from the discussion. I must have not made that clear. roguevalley Sep 2015 #123
Of course you can be a lawyer without representing banks and Hillary know that very well merrily Sep 2015 #96
That is the quote I've been looking for for months! It sums up precisely why I abhor third way Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #158
People growing is not a bad thing, even if its half of what they stood for uponit7771 Sep 2015 #76
I do not think any Clinton has ever had any core principal save hifiguy Sep 2015 #117
Co-opted By Bush Family billhicks76 Sep 2015 #151
K&R! Katashi_itto Sep 2015 #2
She'll answer that question after she's president Ino Sep 2015 #3
You forgot her unflinching and continual support for the Patriot Act. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #4
plus 1 questionseverything Sep 2015 #56
She's wanted the Presidency for a long time, LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #6
I wish I knew why cali Sep 2015 #7
I've become very wary of anyone who LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #27
+1B magical thyme Sep 2015 #43
Agreed n/t MissDeeds Sep 2015 #42
She's obsessed with the presidency. Truly obsessed. hifiguy Sep 2015 #121
....x10+ 840high Sep 2015 #141
What the hell is Progressive? That gets twisted as much as Liberal Armstead Sep 2015 #8
Hillary has frequently slammed "big government" cali Sep 2015 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author cali Sep 2015 #9
A progressive is simply a person that seeks social progress. HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #15
What matters is how it's used, just like liberalism and consrvatism Armstead Sep 2015 #18
Sure, progressive and liberal can be used in various contexts HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #26
One reason I get so angry at the Democratic "centrists" is their muddying of the debate Armstead Sep 2015 #30
There is a lot of obfuscation and dissembling going on by politicians HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #87
Yep. Exactly... Armstead Sep 2015 #91
Nice analytical thought on third way strategy. Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #107
The race to the bottom created by pandering to corporations HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #130
Very good breakdown. +1 Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #160
Well put and clear. Thanks for your thoughts. n/t haikugal Sep 2015 #101
i think you are starting from a false premise salib Sep 2015 #44
NO you have to look at the stated principles as a starting point Armstead Sep 2015 #57
Understand yes. "Supposed to be the opposite of", or something like that, no. salib Sep 2015 #196
I agree with you except.... Armstead Sep 2015 #197
The 'evolving' meme seems a fake euphemism to me. HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #11
Her "evolution" reminds me powerfully of this hifiguy Sep 2015 #122
great graphic! PatrickforO Sep 2015 #152
She's a politician to the n'th degree. She'll say whatever the polls tell her to.. ion_theory Sep 2015 #12
Bernie Sanders: "I’m not a liberal. Never have been." oberliner Sep 2015 #13
actions speak. Bernie has upheld liberal principles throughout his political career cali Sep 2015 #14
He would say progressive principles, not liberal ones oberliner Sep 2015 #16
I agre with bernie -- He's basially saying not to be distacted... Armstead Sep 2015 #23
Government should provide that every child receives a free appropriate education. DhhD Sep 2015 #77
There shalT be no questions about Sanders during a Hillary Bashing thread /sarcasm uponit7771 Sep 2015 #78
Bull@#$& MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #17
I hated that sexist song to begin with. Why they remade it and used it for Hillary is beyond my Autumn Sep 2015 #19
Does that mean you're not in? MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #22
No I'm not in Manny, not even for the cats. Autumn Sep 2015 #28
So, as a hypothetical, MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #31
Why Manny you are so right. When you point out to a dog what they did wrong Autumn Sep 2015 #36
Woof! Well it's possible that a later-model Hillary 7.x could bravely come out MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #40
So true the optics are not good at all. My daughter has livestock and she has an Akbash Autumn Sep 2015 #55
But, will she buy them Frosty Paws, and Dogsters? Fuddnik Sep 2015 #86
Is any song about lust sexist? thesquanderer Sep 2015 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author MisterP Sep 2015 #115
Once a "Goldwater Girl, Always a "Goldwater Girl!" Chasstev365 Sep 2015 #21
I don't hold Goldwater against her, SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #39
No kidding! pandr32 Sep 2015 #64
so, she evolved from conservative to neoliberal noiretextatique Sep 2015 #125
Not true pandr32 Sep 2015 #135
indeed there are. hifiguy Sep 2015 #146
JFK: " If by a Liberal" Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #24
Beautiful speech. Thanks for posting.. mountain grammy Sep 2015 #33
I don't think there are any core beliefs. Divernan Sep 2015 #25
your post should be an op, Nan. cali Sep 2015 #34
Very revealing. pangaia Sep 2015 #35
i'm not a big fan of revenge but i hope it energizes her because certainot Sep 2015 #29
The Bill Clinton Third Way helped to create that problem by pushing for deregulation Armstead Sep 2015 #32
that was in 96, right? and that's about when fox started up. RW radio was already strong, certainot Sep 2015 #81
I agree. But in the context of this thread I think it;s important.... Armstead Sep 2015 #83
we have to move the political center, and the perception of it certainot Sep 2015 #89
Hillary is running to be the first female President. jalan48 Sep 2015 #38
hence the emphasis on "who," not "what": she has a vag so she's "the women's candidate" MisterP Sep 2015 #114
She is going to be president. NT arely staircase Sep 2015 #41
In her head, she already is. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #46
Who can beat her? arely staircase Sep 2015 #48
lol.. you pay no attention. cali Sep 2015 #50
Well, half of the GOP clowns can beat her. Trump for sure and probably Carson, Bush, Cruz. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #51
None of Repubs running could beat any of the Dems. NT arely staircase Sep 2015 #102
Trump. 840high Sep 2015 #142
Clinton would bury Trump in a GE. NT arely staircase Sep 2015 #163
Your declaratives add little to the conversation. Maybe you could tell us why you feel her lead is Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #161
I never said it was arely staircase Sep 2015 #165
I doubt it. you hill supporters don't seem to grasp how deeply unpopular she cali Sep 2015 #49
No her haters dont realize she isnt hated outside the GOP arely staircase Sep 2015 #105
are you truly that deep in denial? she is underwater with independents, dear. cali Sep 2015 #124
Denial. Go to DailyMail. They 840high Sep 2015 #143
And many within our party mistrust her, often ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #134
which party is that? arely staircase Sep 2015 #147
Duh. ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #177
LOL, bookmarked! nt Logical Sep 2015 #71
Feelings Beowulf42 Sep 2015 #53
By Thanksgiving she'll be claiming she's a socialist... Indepatriot Sep 2015 #54
+1 L0oniX Sep 2015 #69
Obama Labor Day Speech STARTING! Put away that projectile food! Link..... Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #60
Trust me. Bernie is emphatically NOT a Marxist.......... socialist_n_TN Sep 2015 #93
Would he take back public utilities to public control, or encourage States to do so? I would like that to happen? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #111
That's not Marxism and I don't know........ socialist_n_TN Sep 2015 #119
OK. Then the next step...nationalization of oil and one State for profit publicly owned company....Oil America? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #131
Has he ever even hinted that he would do anythng like that? No. senz Sep 2015 #173
Thanks for completely missing the topic of the discussion sub-thread! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #176
I replied to your comment. If your comment was off-topic, then so be it. senz Sep 2015 #179
I keep hearing that Obama is a Marxist.. frylock Sep 2015 #109
Be careful, friend, or you may pay a visit to the Ministry of Love. R. P. McMurphy Sep 2015 #62
Wow...you obsessively hate Hillary? GitRDun Sep 2015 #63
wow. you don't know what the word hate means if you think cali Sep 2015 #127
Lol ok, maybe another word is better GitRDun Sep 2015 #153
She's not a political idiot, thankfully Gman Sep 2015 #68
People like her helped to damage the brand...and unfortunetly, its goals Armstead Sep 2015 #99
But but but.... Gman Sep 2015 #164
She's no leader. cali Sep 2015 #167
I disagree completely Gman Sep 2015 #168
She only had to convince conservatives and wing-nuts that she wasn't a liberal. Fuddnik Sep 2015 #70
Does she say she's a liberal now? That's more important than what she did 230jj2j4 yrs ago to me uponit7771 Sep 2015 #75
She recently said she "prefers 'progressive'". n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #80
That's good, we'll measure her policies.. some of them aren't progressive and some of sanders uponit7771 Sep 2015 #82
Kinda like pelican denying it's a donkey then putting on fake ears to prove it is a donkey. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #85
+1 Paka Sep 2015 #175
I think you make a good point, but... thesquanderer Sep 2015 #94
"Hung Up On Semantics"! Isn't that what mostly all the outrage is about lately - semantics, while ignoring policy? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #106
So youceyec Sep 2015 #104
bullshit. changing positions on a few issues is one thing cali Sep 2015 #128
She is a center-right hack, who constantly looks at which way the wind is blowing. EEO Sep 2015 #110
Even Ted Kennedy avoided the word. RandySF Sep 2015 #112
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Sep 2015 #113
That's the truth. Amen. 840high Sep 2015 #144
Truth. Kickety rec. hifiguy Sep 2015 #116
She has had her surrogates attack Sanders 'as a Liberal' AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #129
Hillary says a lot of things, she'll say anything to anyone at any time in her effort to seize power bowens43 Sep 2015 #132
That is so well-stated. There is absolutely no reason to believe her Vattel Sep 2015 #133
Hillary is most convincing when she says she isn't a liberal Jack Rabbit Sep 2015 #149
Noted. Amimnoch Sep 2015 #150
+100 !! (NT) PosterChild Sep 2015 #183
And Bernie has spent most of his denying he's a Democrat...nt SidDithers Sep 2015 #155
Since 1992, the Democratic party hasn't been very Democratic! Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #157
So he's only doing it now when it's politically convenient? Amimnoch Sep 2015 #159
that's such a vacuous response. he votes as a democrat. he acts like what a democrat cali Sep 2015 #162
And Thespian2 Sep 2015 #156
And that is her failing, not mine. cali Sep 2015 #166
Ab-so-lutely Thespian2 Sep 2015 #186
It is Bernie who has been emphatic that he is not a liberal. SunSeeker Sep 2015 #169
But he's telling the truth. He's to the left of liberal: "liberal" on steroids. senz Sep 2015 #171
He has never said that. nt SunSeeker Sep 2015 #172
He stated the truth that he's not a liberal. It is I who call him "liberal on steroids." senz Sep 2015 #174
liberal is to progressive as libertarian is to conservative BlueStateLib Sep 2015 #184
liberal and progressive are synonyms. pnwmom Sep 2015 #190
Just another example of how Democrats have allowed the right and the media= Buzz cook Sep 2015 #185
She Knows Herself That's For Sure colsohlibgal Sep 2015 #187
She says, "I consider myself a proud, modern, American progressive." pnwmom Sep 2015 #191
I consider myself a vegetarian but should I expect people to believe me if I eat Big Macs in public? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #192
What she says: "I consider myself a proud, modern, American progressive." pnwmom Sep 2015 #189
When you compare her to the real progressive in the race it rings hollow. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #193
So being a Liberal was good enough for JFK, RoccoR5955 Sep 2015 #194
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