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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
44. Okay for what it's worth....
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:33 PM
Sep 2015

Here's what I (and others) would like to see. It's similar to what was proposed but scuttled with the ACA. Although nothing in healthcare is truly efficient or simple, it is comparatively straightforward in concept, without a lot of downside.

Open up Medicare to voluntary coverage to anyone who chooses to buy into it, no matter what age, with payments based on affordable percentage of income (sliding scale).

Make it a basic program, that provides decent coverage, not a "cadillac plan."

Totally voluntary. You don't want to have anything to do with "socialized" medicine? Happy with your existing coverage? Fine. Ignore it. You want to mix it with additional private coverage, go ahead.

There are several advantages. It makes access to overage truly universal, and staightforward without all the qualification crapola of the current system.(It also could or could not be combined with Medicaid or some other subsidy for the truly needy.)

It would provide a baseline of affordable care in the market, forcing private insurance to compete.

It could have the potential to actually strengthen Medicare by the same principle that private insurance use -- you have young healthy people paying into the system, which can help to offset the higher costs of older sicker clients.

It could also take the onus off employers for coverage, or make it more affordable for them to provide it too.

Politically? Sure the GOP will raise holy hell, and some conservatives will howl and complain. But if the Democrats got behind it and actively (relentlessly) pushed for it and explained it to the public, it could get done. When people realize the advantages -- access to less expensive coverage -- I'm convinced a majoity of the public, except diehard conservatives and insurance executives -- could be won over.

Really? How many times has the GOP voted to try and repeal Obamacare? MADem Sep 2015 #1
Really? How many times has the GOP managed to repeal Obamacare? Wilms Sep 2015 #3
Look, you're acting like the whole of America is ENAMOURED of Obamacare--they aren't. MADem Sep 2015 #11
I live in the sticks in Alaska and the governor by himself pushed through the expansion roguevalley Sep 2015 #33
That's good. But that's a long, long way from single payer. MADem Sep 2015 #42
Show me polling that suggests majority support for Single Payer Health Care brooklynite Sep 2015 #2
Here you go... Bjorn Against Sep 2015 #5
Hmm. So half the country agrees with what FLOTUS Hillary Clinton was saying back in the 90s! nt MADem Sep 2015 #12
She was hardly the only person supporting universal care Armstead Sep 2015 #13
Oh. PLEASE. She was the ONLY person heading up a TASK FORCE on the subject in 1993. MADem Sep 2015 #15
No it killed me at the time to watch them screw it up Armstead Sep 2015 #16
Yes, and "Bernie's" task force--they got it done? Never saw anything about that in the paper...? MADem Sep 2015 #17
He wasn't sitting on his ass, nor have millions of others Armstead Sep 2015 #19
He wasn't? What was he doing, besides running his mouth? Talk is cheap. MADem Sep 2015 #20
The failiure of Vermont;s system have nothing to do with Sanders Armstead Sep 2015 #21
Why was he trying to pass it off as a minor bump in the road, then, instead of the abject failure MADem Sep 2015 #23
Wellllll...maybe if we had a decent national systemm to support it..... Armstead Sep 2015 #24
Where's the ACTION? Hillary chaired a task force--all I see is talk, talk, talk, and a can-kick MADem Sep 2015 #27
Oh give it a rest -- I told you i don't feel like a nyah nyah match Armstead Sep 2015 #28
How could they "try again with a better plan?" MADem Sep 2015 #29
Excuses, excuses....there's always excuses. The All Powerful GOP Armstead Sep 2015 #30
You were either too young or your memory is short. MADem Sep 2015 #31
I wish I were too young Armstead Sep 2015 #36
I don't think either Clinton was a scared bunny rabbit. MADem Sep 2015 #38
well said Armstead LeftOfWest Sep 2015 #43
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THE GOP, they are such a handy scapegoat! slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #32
good thing that LBJ didn't give up on his stuff becase of stupid opposition or civl rights roguevalley Sep 2015 #35
Not. The. Same. MADem Sep 2015 #40
If health care abject failure is the topic here, then Hillary wrote the book. roguevalley Sep 2015 #34
OK, cough up "the plan" then. Don't talk in generalities--get us to the place MADem Sep 2015 #41
Okay for what it's worth.... Armstead Sep 2015 #44
That's not real single payer, though. That's more like a hybrid approach. MADem Sep 2015 #45
It's not single payer -- that;s fine wth me Armstead Sep 2015 #46
Well, I think ACA was the first step on a long journey. MADem Sep 2015 #47
Majority still supports single-payer option, poll finds Wilms Sep 2015 #6
Looks like health care satisfaction has been trending DOWNWARD since that poll was taken. MADem Sep 2015 #18
Not hard to find Mnpaul Sep 2015 #9
The support has been there for years, but the corporate media and corporate candidates dismiss ... slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #10
Sorry. Socialism is not a winning platform in the General. redstateblues Sep 2015 #4
Yeah Corporate Oligarchy is much more popular Armstead Sep 2015 #8
They used to call that proposal HILLARYCARE. How soon people forget...! MADem Sep 2015 #14
Amen -- But that'll go through one ear and out the other with some Armstead Sep 2015 #7
And with some it makes a stop in a Waring blender and shot out their pie hole with enough english Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #25
They keep trying, and it's just not working because McCarthyism is from history, and not a very part sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #22
I agree, thanks for posting! nt. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #26
Why Congress Did Not Enact Health Care Reform - 1995 slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #37
If we voted with our minds instead of our emotion, we would not be in this mess. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #39
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