2016 Postmortem

artislife

(9,497 posts)

90. But they are posting their displeasure

Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:12 PM

Sep 2015

I have read it. Just link to the post or write in reply in agreement. It is the ownership factor, that is rubbing other members of the AA community wrong.I am actually trying to mediate for you because you are a good person but you are losing any effect you wish to make. It isn't about how you feel about West, or how some Blacks feel about West, it is about you speaking authoritatively that we all should feel the same way or shamed and to denounce it. And to stop him from being with Sanders.

Personally, I had a hard time responding to minorities and listening to their thoughts on BLM only to find out they were not minorities. It felt ---disingenuous. Dishonest. Speak from your own narrative.

Do this:
I don't like West. I don't like how hurt many members of the Black community were sucker punched when West went off on President...PRESIDENT Obama and created a new talking point. I have a mixed family and the effects of racism on my family members is constant, unrelenting and those who do it, don't need someone to help them do it more. I would love to see Sanders with someone else. Am I speaking out of turn or are their members of the community that agree with me? How does this impact you?

Instead of :
What you are doing.

Because when people speak their Truth and not what they think is someone else's Truth, it cannot be wrong. But when you start to be the spokesperson for a group and the entire group hasn't elected you, expect push back. From everyone.

TO CLARIFY: I am on the fence about West. I didn't think President Obama needed a kick in the ass so soon and so harshly. But I respect that my opinion is not the ONLY opinion. I can love some of the richness West has brought into our collective consciousness. I can be less than pleased about other...things.

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Found on Greg Palast's FB page today -- [View all] Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2015 OP

The Clinton Machine has little use for facts, unless it is to distort them. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #1

Hillary Campaign Manipulated BLM billhicks76 Sep 2015 #108

Another new thing about Sanders that impresses me. arcane1 Sep 2015 #2

That is a rare quality. It's a first for me. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #26

And that's precisely why The Bern may well win this thing. -nt- 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #32

I was sold, but it would be nice if more people did learn about him, wouldn't it? merrily Sep 2015 #110

I wish this would get out there. Very instructive. nt thereismore Sep 2015 #3

Thank you. Hollingsworth Sep 2015 #4

K&R! marym625 Sep 2015 #5

I love Palast, too. :) Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2015 #7

I dropped him an email in the midst of the Iraq invasion as I was considering roguevalley Sep 2015 #13

Big hugs. Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2015 #15

Glad someone or something stopped you and that it's all good now. merrily Sep 2015 #23

. marym625 Sep 2015 #33

I am glad he wrote back and glad all is well with you now! sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #102

Unless you have ever experienced that sort Aerows Sep 2015 #123

Palast, Nomi Prins, Naomi Klein and Matt Taibbi. hifiguy Sep 2015 #50

My personal favorites. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #53

Well, kiss 'em good-bye. Taibbi is already under the bus and I suspect this puts Palast under it. merrily Sep 2015 #111

Greg Palast LIVES under the bus. staggerleem Sep 2015 #119

LOL! I don't think I'd mind living and working in the UK very much, if I made enough for reasonably merrily Sep 2015 #120

I hope he's gotten a higher profile over the years. bvf Sep 2015 #6

I think he's never catapulted into the mainstream -- Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2015 #9

His stuff (what I've read) bvf Sep 2015 #17

He did a talk/book signing years ago and I felt like a groupie getting my book signed arcane1 Sep 2015 #40

He is a true American hero who can't get published in America Midnight Writer Sep 2015 #104

K&R think Sep 2015 #8

The Black Caucus knows where the money is after they leave office. jalan48 Sep 2015 #10

A vote for anyone but Bernie is a vote to keep things just as they are. Gregorian Sep 2015 #11

Huge +1! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #30

"A vote for anyone but Bernie is a vote to keep things just as they are." in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #39

Quite a few candidates would make things worse jfern Sep 2015 #99

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #12

Shout it from the rooftops. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #14

Once again Bernie rings true navarth Sep 2015 #16

K & R mountain grammy Sep 2015 #18

K&R AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #19

Nice visual. Is there a counterpart where the needle goes the other way? merrily Sep 2015 #24

here ya go AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #35

Thanks. I think I just guffawed. I've never been totally sure what a guffaw is. If it's a sudden, merrily Sep 2015 #37

!!! AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #45

. merrily Sep 2015 #47

!!!!!!!!!!!!shit.... wendylaroux Sep 2015 #51

hahahaaa!!!!! Bruhahaha 840high Sep 2015 #100

There's also this one hifiguy Sep 2015 #56

I wonder if using that would get a hide. merrily Sep 2015 #112

Known in the days of analog as "pegging the needle." Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #64

K & R! SoapBox Sep 2015 #20

K & R. Good post. Always enjoy Greg Palast's work and attitude. Bernie is bringing up appalachiablue Sep 2015 #21

K&R for the bouncing booger, or whatever that is passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #22

"I dont tolerate bullshit over facts" Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #25

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #27

Ahhh, I need to join Palast's FB! Duval Sep 2015 #28

At least "like" that post. merrily Sep 2015 #41

Greg Palast should take Cornel West's place in the campaign. pnwmom Sep 2015 #29

He did good in 2000 but since he has been trying upaloopa Sep 2015 #38

are you an AA voter? noiretextatique Sep 2015 #48

As you know, I've been talking to many of them in their forum. pnwmom Sep 2015 #52

I think the poster is telling you artislife Sep 2015 #58

Maybe I am. But any negative effect I might have, as a DUer, is small compared to the effect pnwmom Sep 2015 #63

But, but, the pro-Obama voters have assured us over and over and over that they will support rhett o rick Sep 2015 #67

DUers have. But what about all the other Democrats who voted for President Obama pnwmom Sep 2015 #69

nobody cares. reddread Sep 2015 #79

President Obama is "yesterday's laundry"? Not to millions of people who will be voting -- pnwmom Sep 2015 #82

over some obscure sleight? reddread Sep 2015 #84

Calling him a "n***ized" President is an obscure slight? n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #86

in the context of his statement it applies to us all reddread Sep 2015 #87

lol, mmmm-hmmmm, go door-to-door in a black neighborhood Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #98

President Obama is "yesterday's laundry"? Not to millions of people... AlbertCat Sep 2015 #117

A lot of those people that believed that Obama was a progressive are looking forward to voting rhett o rick Sep 2015 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Sep 2015 #101

so, you just EXEMfPT yourself from doing the same thing noiretextatique Sep 2015 #71

Actually you're having a terrific effect. I encourage u 2 continue this bizarre White Ambassadorship Catherina Sep 2015 #72

What I believe to be the real issue artislife Sep 2015 #78

Sadly, a lot of them have either been suspended or have expressed the fear pnwmom Sep 2015 #85

But they are posting their displeasure artislife Sep 2015 #90

Thanks, artislife, for another very thoughtful post. pnwmom Sep 2015 #91

I can see your heart. nt artislife Sep 2015 #92

... pnwmom Sep 2015 #94

Awesome - cheers to you both. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #106

Awesome - cheers to you both. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #105

You totally understood. Thanks for your great posts throughout DU n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #114

did it ever occur to you that some black people agree with West? noiretextatique Sep 2015 #68

Of course some do. But why alienate ANY by associating with an Obama-slammer? pnwmom Sep 2015 #70

are YOU a Sanders supporter? yes or no? noiretextatique Sep 2015 #73

I will be if he's the nominee. At this point I'm undecided and I don't want any of our nominees pnwmom Sep 2015 #76

You seem obsessed. 840high Sep 2015 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Sep 2015 #107

People are always going to be alienated by someone. Obama alienated some people, Autumn Sep 2015 #116

How do you feel about Hillary's association with the man who helped sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #122

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #31

Since elected to Congress in 1990 Bernie has worked with many leaders including members appalachiablue Sep 2015 #34

What the hell does that prove. upaloopa Sep 2015 #36

The point is he was there....undercuttting the lie that he doesn't give a shit Armstead Sep 2015 #42

the lie is black people supporting clinton because they dont know Any better JI7 Sep 2015 #46

exactly this says something more about some of his supporters JI7 Sep 2015 #44

As Gandhi said, "I like your Christ, upaloopa Sep 2015 #49

check out post 54 JI7 Sep 2015 #62

I'd like to think we're going to start seeing more of this, cuz it's so refreshing. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #43

Found on Greg Palast's web page..... MADem Sep 2015 #54

So Hillary Sponsored this with the black caucus ? JI7 Sep 2015 #61

says sponsered by the Cong. Black Caucus and Sen Hillary Clinton. 2004 Why does OP say MIA riversedge Sep 2015 #65

write palast and ask him why he said ,hillary mia questionseverything Sep 2015 #83

Hillary was at an all-day African American Leadership Conference on that day Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #97

Was that the one in Missouri? Gloria Sep 2015 #125

Some people have short memories, and don't apparently remember what they put on their OWN web pages. MADem Sep 2015 #126

The OP does not talk about dates or what event it is. Confusing. riversedge Sep 2015 #66

Love Greg Palast... Remembering What HE Wrote In ChiciB1 Sep 2015 #55

Aw Hell, you rock! Selma back then, & today on the NAACP march Catherina Sep 2015 #57

Sounds like he has a strong opinion about Sanders Babel_17 Sep 2015 #59

TRUTH! YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #60

voter suppression was definitely one of the points retrowire Sep 2015 #74

Yeah, but don't ignore how she addressed the issue of voting early Gloria Sep 2015 #75

Frankly, 95% of her campaign is bullcaca emsimon33 Sep 2015 #77

Well, since she and Sanders share many common ideas, I Gloria Sep 2015 #88

She adopted many of his policies emsimon33 Sep 2015 #121

ok.....but Gloria Sep 2015 #124

Palast was the only journalist who would interview me Lorien Sep 2015 #80

two thumbs up! reddread Sep 2015 #81

I was hoping we'd have time machines by now jfern Sep 2015 #89

Greg Palast did not tell the entire truth in this Facebook post Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Sep 2015 #109

Big Ole K&R!!! MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #96

Especially in states like South Carolina, where they passed voter restriction laws. Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #113

k&r avaistheone1 Sep 2015 #115

Damn - Now we have to throw Palast under the bus along with Cornel West? GoneOffShore Sep 2015 #118