2016 Postmortem

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337. Are there any "Centrist" Republicans running whom can even win their party's primary?

Fri Sep 18, 2015, 12:27 PM

Sep 2015

I don't see any, nor can I see any right-minded Democrats (and I wouldn't call them Dems if there were) wanting ANY of the current GOP frontrunners to win the WH in 2016, nor do I see any whom could beat Hillary or Bernie.

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OK I'll just say it: the dem establishment wants to lose this election [View all] restorefreedom Sep 2015 OP

With money and power comes arrogance and complacency. It's not that they don't want to win. liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #1

They want a corporate candidate to win. PERIOD. Their owners have spoken, Damn the voters Vincardog Sep 2015 #26

Its all about the Plutocracy! They are terrified of Bernie and what he represents, that the Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #77

That's the narrative. tecelote Sep 2015 #113

Socialism Rocks! redstateblues Sep 2015 #275

excellent summary. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #121

This election IS the most important election since Lincoln was President! It STARTS with Vincardog Sep 2015 #165

Yes!!! We recruit other candidates to follow in Bernie's footsteps. Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #167

++ good Vincardog Sep 2015 #168

+ a brazilian. hifiguy Sep 2015 #178

Yes he is and I don't think that most people realize this! Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #242

Well said. Bravo! hifiguy Sep 2015 #243

The fierce urgency of NOW. Great post. Great thread! n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #252

go bernie! nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #257

^ That's the answer. TBF Sep 2015 #284

You hit the nail on the head. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #333

LOL. Hey look, a conspiracy theory! DanTex Sep 2015 #2

I go by what I see restorefreedom Sep 2015 #4

You do realize that the relevant will of the people hasn't actually been determined yet right? mythology Sep 2015 #298

he is ahead in the first two states restorefreedom Sep 2015 #299

It still baffles me why the DNC or democrats kacekwl Sep 2015 #326

you seriously don't think it is even a possibility restorefreedom Sep 2015 #6

No. Obviously not. The Dems want to win and the Reps want to win. No politicians or parties want DanTex Sep 2015 #8

that is the way it used to be restorefreedom Sep 2015 #11

The GOP threatens the Dems and the Dems threaten the GOP. DanTex Sep 2015 #17

have you actually listened to bernie? restorefreedom Sep 2015 #38

Both parties are complicit in the corruption azmom Sep 2015 #56

i just hope its not too late. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #59

The Democratic Party does not want Bernie to win. azmom Sep 2015 #67

thank goodness for the young restorefreedom Sep 2015 #73

He has been fighting the good fight azmom Sep 2015 #83

amen to that. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #85

You are correct. Their scam requires that both parties play along. And Bernie will fuck up the game GoneFishin Sep 2015 #99

Ha..good luck with all that Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #184

It's on. The political revolution azmom Sep 2015 #194

Naw man I'm a billionaire Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #196

That explains everything. N/t azmom Sep 2015 #197

Yes. And Hillary also. And I still don't believe in your conspiracy theories. At all. DanTex Sep 2015 #150

bernie does not have "no chance" restorefreedom Sep 2015 #154

Well, most establishment Dems believe that. You are free to disagree, but your disagreement doesn't DanTex Sep 2015 #159

yes running on 12 instead of 15 an hour restorefreedom Sep 2015 #198

There's a disconnect here you just can't remedy. Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #173

What is the evidence for the statement that everyone 'outside the DC bubble" understands JDPriestly Sep 2015 #338

Koch's contribute to some of the Dems. Prairiegale Sep 2015 #341

Third post and already linking to a right-wing site. That was quick. DanTex Sep 2015 #342

Look for yourself and see what you think Prairiegale Sep 2015 #344

It still AMAZES me that anyone around here thinks there is ANY remote sense of randys1 Sep 2015 #138

There is a difference between the two parties on economic issues? Mnpaul Sep 2015 #247

Then you aren't looking mythology Sep 2015 #302

I'm not working for minimum wage Mnpaul Sep 2015 #311

No difference, is that what you are saying? I cant respond to a statement that ludicrous randys1 Sep 2015 #335

On the issues important to me there is no difference Mnpaul Sep 2015 #348

So Black lives, Women's rights, Gay rights, not important? Just pocketbook? How about randys1 Sep 2015 #349

I'm not black or gay Mnpaul Sep 2015 #350

You arent Black or Gay therefore who cares? got it randys1 Sep 2015 #351

Nice strawman argument there Mnpaul Sep 2015 #352

Yes, you said the lives of Black people and Gay and Women are not on the top of your randys1 Sep 2015 #353

Gay rights aren't at the top of the list Mnpaul Sep 2015 #354

DWS... DWS? You mean the same DWS that campaigned for 3 Republicans in the last election? A Simple Game Sep 2015 #319

Blankfein, speaking for Wall Street, hifiguy Sep 2015 #185

Yes, it suggests that he personally is comfortable with HRC or Jeb. DanTex Sep 2015 #189

Yeah, it's not like there's a history of establishment Democrats jeff47 Sep 2015 #217

Couldn't tell from watching the DNC at work. n/t Scootaloo Sep 2015 #307

Just like the Establishment didn't want Elizabeth Warren elected to the Senate? brooklynite Sep 2015 #65

she had a mixed history in earlier days restorefreedom Sep 2015 #68

You mean like Arlen Specter? d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #135

or in your delusion you don't want to see the cooperation Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #179

The Question Must Be Asked McKim Sep 2015 #322

Are there any "Centrist" Republicans running whom can even win their party's primary? Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #337

Is it really necessary to reply to OP that way? Chakaconcarne Sep 2015 #14

thanks. i did put my armor on restorefreedom Sep 2015 #16

Is it not a conspiracy theory? I mean, suggesting that the DNC is trying to sabotage the election DanTex Sep 2015 #20

it is not an attack restorefreedom Sep 2015 #39

The tone is decidedly conspiratorial Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #182

For Dan, yes it is. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #219

Conspiracy theory? nichomachus Sep 2015 #24

Doesn't the original post propose what would be an actual conspiracy ToxMarz Sep 2015 #64

I always try to avoid using the conspiracy term restorefreedom Sep 2015 #112

Doesn't Debbie Schultz's deliberate refusal to start the Democratic Cal33 Sep 2015 #27

What does that have to do with the theory that they want the GOP to win? Nothing. DanTex Sep 2015 #29

Yes. You are correct. It squelches the voices of all dem candidates while allowing the Repuglican GoneFishin Sep 2015 #105

No...it allows the GOP to make asses of themselves Gloria Sep 2015 #123

<< The more they sit there on the stage railing about religion, war, etc. the stranger they seem. >> Cal33 Sep 2015 #250

YEs, but these people won't vote Dem anyway...and Gloria Sep 2015 #297

Do not underestimate the power of the Stupid Side. backscatter712 Sep 2015 #317

I agree. In recent decades, Republicans have been winning elections just as frequently as Cal33 Sep 2015 #364

2014 Midterms "Conspiracy Theory" bahrbearian Sep 2015 #28

Aha, you're saying they lost on purpose. Obviously there is evidence of that. You know, some DanTex Sep 2015 #30

"Evidence based person" yet it is overwhelmingly assumption after assumption. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #31

please feel free to offer your own evidence restorefreedom Sep 2015 #42

Please present other evidence or other conclusions to the evidence that has been offered. highprincipleswork Sep 2015 #52

good additions, all. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #54

Also some debates are scheduled during major sports games according to several here. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #285

thank you so much. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #286

1) the republican debates are greatly helping our brand. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #80

I just posted something similar.... Gloria Sep 2015 #160

wrong about sanders having no chance restorefreedom Sep 2015 #199

Politics is not a zero sum game. jeff47 Sep 2015 #221

Ease up. gregcrawford Sep 2015 #74

i think its naive too restorefreedom Sep 2015 #88

So glad you posted this. Thanks. eom Duval Sep 2015 #181

Right because there's no such thing as legacy Ivy League students. closeupready Sep 2015 #101

LOL that has become the catch all dismissal. zeemike Sep 2015 #116

Is that an alert talking point? Autumn Sep 2015 #170

Thanks for giving me a laugh Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #183

If doesn't matter if there is a conspiracy or not. Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #206

right restorefreedom Sep 2015 #213

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #223

Denigrating this OP, chervilant Sep 2015 #241

Too bad you can't come up with anything that makes sense so you have to start yelling Conspiracy rhett o rick Sep 2015 #303

Just like 2010, 2012, 2014 FreakinDJ Sep 2015 #3

I think some didn't care if they lost the midterms. TDale313 Sep 2015 #229

If the Repubs. win in 2016, it could be the end of what's left of democracy, and Cal33 Sep 2015 #5

If a Corporate Democrat wins it will be the same. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #7

+1 and a huge THANKS for saying this RiverLover Sep 2015 #21

It would be similar, but not quite exactly the same. A Corporate Democrat would, for instance, Cal33 Sep 2015 #40

She would hasten the demise of the Democratic Party and hand it to the GOP Skwmom Sep 2015 #90

Yes. Having a corporate Democrat as President effectively muzzles most Democratic dissent RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #94

As we clearly saw in the Bill Clinton administration: jwirr Sep 2015 #157

I gotta disagree with you Scootaloo Sep 2015 #308

Pres. Obama certainly was trying very hard for bipartisanship. He appointed 2 Supreme Cal33 Sep 2015 #371

Absolutely. There may be a few differences, but the "bottom line" will be the same. n/t RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #87

So Hillary would repeal the ACA then ... is that your point? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #193

No but would she push for single payer ? kacekwl Sep 2015 #324

You can not claim she is the SAME as the GOP ... and then admit that ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #340

+1 appalachiablue Sep 2015 #78

LOL. This place sometimes. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #9

always aim to entertain....nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #15

So does Donald Trump. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #43

hey, i am with donald! restorefreedom Sep 2015 #44

Don't feel too special MoveIt Sep 2015 #174

lol. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #202

It's the same MO they've used in Fla for years. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #10

+1 liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #12

exactly. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #13

Correction: WE threaten to take it away. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #23

correction happily noted! restorefreedom Sep 2015 #37

Yes that is exactly right. And DWS is smart enough to know that closeupready Sep 2015 #115

What he said... Gmak Sep 2015 #148

I agree! Prairiegale Sep 2015 #345

Debbie Wasserman Shultz is turning into the Ralph Nadar of this election. Baitball Blogger Sep 2015 #18

MITCHELL: "The Republicans are drowning you guys out, though." DWS: "Good" RiverLover Sep 2015 #19

either the OP is correct or the party is led by idiots ibegurpard Sep 2015 #25

i have left open in my mind restorefreedom Sep 2015 #62

in other words there is no need for the Democrats to do any work. All they have to do is liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #34

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Sep 2015 #75

That was a losing strategy last election abelenkpe Sep 2015 #145

"Better than a Republican" doesn't work anymore Mnpaul Sep 2015 #246

How so? I didn't know she was running. nt kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #93

Reading comprehension? /nt RiverLover Sep 2015 #95

Nobody is getting drowned out... Gloria Sep 2015 #162

Honest to Princess Celestia and the FSM, I am really starting to believe hifiguy Sep 2015 #186

if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck......nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #195

And all it would take is President Obama saying "pack your things, Debbie." Scootaloo Sep 2015 #309

My guess is that the scientific community has a much different definition of evidence nt Godhumor Sep 2015 #22

i wish a gas chromatograph could help here restorefreedom Sep 2015 #47

Tell me about, I love Sociological and Political science.... daleanime Sep 2015 #100

i think they are are different restorefreedom Sep 2015 #103

Different, yes.... daleanime Sep 2015 #218

true, human nature restorefreedom Sep 2015 #220

I actually think there is some wisdom in not deflecting from the Republicans verbal food fight The empressof all Sep 2015 #32

Ask any non political person you know ibegurpard Sep 2015 #41

Yep jberryhill Sep 2015 #84

When you don't show an alternative, shining in their idiotic glory doesn't work. jeff47 Sep 2015 #226

I don't know The empressof all Sep 2015 #231

No, they will have decided politicians all suck jeff47 Sep 2015 #235

I'd be more happy with a bowl of good old fashioned oatmeal and Vermont maple sugar. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #254

This message was self-deleted by its author restorefreedom Sep 2015 #259

Okay. LWolf Sep 2015 #273

good grief, even a third grader could get it when explained this way. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #233

Because DWS's paycheck depends on her not understanding it. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #236

sad. but true. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #237

I agree, and the corporate media do the same. sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #33

it makes sense restorefreedom Sep 2015 #48

Because there is a level Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Sep 2015 #36

+1 azmom Sep 2015 #201

Respectfully disagree. I think the corporate establishment wants to win this election RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #45

good analysis. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #49

Guess again. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #255

I have to wonder if the elections aren't just for show now BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #46

that is exactly it restorefreedom Sep 2015 #50

I have considered the same factors. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #51

it did not give me any pleasure..... restorefreedom Sep 2015 #57

Eventually the population will wake up and the corporations will have to relinquish power. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #63

its sad restorefreedom Sep 2015 #66

Silly. nt Nitram Sep 2015 #53

Of course its quite the opposite. DCBob Sep 2015 #55

agree with you IF restorefreedom Sep 2015 #58

Of course shenmue Sep 2015 #97

The real elites don't care one way or the other. They'll get their tax breaks, wars, privileges, leveymg Sep 2015 #60

good points restorefreedom Sep 2015 #76

OK, I'll say it: that's a stupid assertion... brooklynite Sep 2015 #61

you can throw the word stupid around all you want restorefreedom Sep 2015 #70

Lets review our memes, shall we? brooklynite Sep 2015 #69

that is not what i said restorefreedom Sep 2015 #71

i agree with you for the most part. retrowire Sep 2015 #72

good op, yours restorefreedom Sep 2015 #79

Bernie bernie bernie!!! woooo! n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #82

woot woot!! nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #89

Yup hifiguy Sep 2015 #188

Or maybe the establishment corporatists refuse to cede the field. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #81

i do believe that is why restorefreedom Sep 2015 #91

'Cause the players tried to take the field Mnpaul Sep 2015 #248

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Sep 2015 #86

Bwhahahaha! zappaman Sep 2015 #92

nice to see substantive discussion restorefreedom Sep 2015 #134

Maybe we can also debate the existence of unicorns zappaman Sep 2015 #187

I wish I could.... daleanime Sep 2015 #96

no worries restorefreedom Sep 2015 #119

They sure don't act like they want to win. CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #98

I disagree Fumesucker Sep 2015 #102

^^this^^ HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #106

Thread winner! RiverLover Sep 2015 #111

thats fair. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #117

Pretty much that Scootaloo Sep 2015 #310

I have a hard time believing crystal dawn Sep 2015 #104

they might want HILLARY to win restorefreedom Sep 2015 #108

The Dem strategy crystal dawn Sep 2015 #122

hillary is nothing like bernie policy wise restorefreedom Sep 2015 #141

Then you must be completely ignoring Hillary's campaign. crystal dawn Sep 2015 #169

There is a big difference. Bernie's campaign azmom Sep 2015 #172

Another meme crystal dawn Sep 2015 #175

the "meme" would stop if Ds stopped being Wall Street's little dancing poodles at every MisterP Sep 2015 #225

amen to that. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #234

Translation: Please provide solid evidence to counter my simple speculation. FSogol Sep 2015 #107

in what way restorefreedom Sep 2015 #114

DWS and the DNC are doing a poor job*. They aren't trying to lose. FSogol Sep 2015 #137

that is a good analysis restorefreedom Sep 2015 #144

If that's true, it was a pretty incompetent move on Hillary's part to come out and say Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #258

True. They would rather have a Republican corporatist in the White House than a liberal Democrat. GoneFishin Sep 2015 #109

It certainly looks like that. fbc Sep 2015 #128

When your leading candidate has a madville Sep 2015 #110

Republicans are doing a good job fooling you Eatacig Sep 2015 #118

i am "pushing" for bernie restorefreedom Sep 2015 #127

Have you ever been involvled in actual party politics, SheilaT Sep 2015 #120

i am prepared to accept the possibility restorefreedom Sep 2015 #129

They do live in a bubble. SheilaT Sep 2015 #136

if that is the case restorefreedom Sep 2015 #147

Your remarks are Spot On!,,All Bernie has to do to win laserhaas Sep 2015 #124

that would be amazing! nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #130

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #125

thx uncle joe. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #131

You might want to share your findings with Nate Silver Gothmog Sep 2015 #126

naaahhh restorefreedom Sep 2015 #132

DWS is no liberal. zomgitsjesus Sep 2015 #133

"I am not a member of any organized party — I am a Democrat." ~ Will Rogers Garrett78 Sep 2015 #139

if that is the case restorefreedom Sep 2015 #142

On far too many non-social issues... Garrett78 Sep 2015 #161

Good grief Gman Sep 2015 #140

no, not die restorefreedom Sep 2015 #146

No flame from me. And one though the scandals that jwirr Sep 2015 #143

the wh is their prize for sure restorefreedom Sep 2015 #149

Yeah that last does scare me also. But I think they jwirr Sep 2015 #164

bernie is resonating with the voters restorefreedom Sep 2015 #203

You make sense. Your argument is plausible enough senz Sep 2015 #151

great points restorefreedom Sep 2015 #155

The only way we lose the election is destroying the candidate with the best chance to win with Hoyt Sep 2015 #152

so if bernie or omalley get the nom restorefreedom Sep 2015 #158

Yes. Do you think the Democratic "machinery" is going to sit out the race and Hoyt Sep 2015 #171

when i see dws come out hard for bernie restorefreedom Sep 2015 #205

The party leadership should act in best interest of the party, not your annointed one. Hoyt Sep 2015 #230

The best interest of the party restorefreedom Sep 2015 #232

Well, I don't think Sanders is a membrr of the party, yet it is very accomodating of him. Hoyt Sep 2015 #244

he fully supports dems restorefreedom Sep 2015 #245

When I see them talking about finding a 'white knight' to 'save' the party from having to nominate Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #261

sadly, i agree. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #263

Where have "they" talked about that? Hoyt Sep 2015 #279

The DNC loves the DNC, not America. Android3.14 Sep 2015 #153

amen to that.nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #156

C'mon. Nobody wants to lose an election, except maybe the tea partiers redstateblues Sep 2015 #163

Regarding the debates - the Democrats have time Matariki Sep 2015 #166

The problem for corporate Dems is that as things continue to unravel, less "escape" is possible villager Sep 2015 #176

I believer Debbie's thinking goes somewhat like this: Maedhros Sep 2015 #177

it makes sense restorefreedom Sep 2015 #207

What's so ultimately stupid is the pro-Hillary argument runs like this: Maedhros Sep 2015 #224

very well said. no reason at all. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #228

One of the problems with that tactic is that if you spend a lot of time looking winter is coming Sep 2015 #238

Oh, there are many problems with the tactic. Maedhros Sep 2015 #240

Can't argue with your assessment! The empressof all Sep 2015 #239

More Bernie hot air.. Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #180

Victim Mentality runs rampant redstateblues Sep 2015 #272

Just to review: the Democratic President WANTS his Party to lose... brooklynite Sep 2015 #190

if he knows the party leadership restorefreedom Sep 2015 #208

DWS sucks. And we need more debates. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #191

how does she not see restorefreedom Sep 2015 #210

This is someone who teamed up w/ Sheldon Adelson to ensure FL would keep arresting sick pot smokers Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #214

you're right, sigh..... nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #215

CNN draws 22.9 million for GOP debate RiverLover Sep 2015 #192

They would rather have Trump than Bernie, any day. Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #200

I think people of color are gonna have to get this done underthematrix Sep 2015 #204

the media is dying for clinton v bush restorefreedom Sep 2015 #211

You know, I can't tell who the DEM nominee is gonna be underthematrix Sep 2015 #222

PoC will be a factor, an important voice, LWolf Sep 2015 #276

I believe (also) that Debbie is going to kill us. A lot of Elections are won by a fairly small... BlueJazz Sep 2015 #209

not only that restorefreedom Sep 2015 #212

Not only that.... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #330

they've thrown Senate races, and would throw all three branches as long as it meant MisterP Sep 2015 #216

I think they want to win but only with an establishment pol and TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #227

Please don't pretend to be evidence based. You ignore facts that don't agree with your outlook. Persondem Sep 2015 #249

your memes are played restorefreedom Sep 2015 #262

You just don't get it ... Sanders CAN'T win a general election. Persondem Sep 2015 #282

you don't think hillary has baggage?? restorefreedom Sep 2015 #283

Sure, I'll gladly admit HRC has baggage, but it's not like the 16 tons of lead Persondem Sep 2015 #363

its all chaff restorefreedom Sep 2015 #367

Tell that to John Kerry. Swiftboat victim over made up BS. Persondem Sep 2015 #369

i do not believe thats why he lost restorefreedom Sep 2015 #370

Don't go overboard with the crazy talk brooklynite Sep 2015 #251

fine. i have plenty of other things to do restorefreedom Sep 2015 #264

I'd like to take you point-by-point customerserviceguy Sep 2015 #253

some very good points. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #266

Thank you customerserviceguy Sep 2015 #357

thank you as well. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #368

BREAKING: Bernie Sanders to register as a Democrat brooklynite Sep 2015 #256

save it restorefreedom Sep 2015 #265

This is the second time that I have seen you trumpeting that Bernie Sanders Aerows Sep 2015 #277

maybe #3? nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #281

rachel just nailed it restorefreedom Sep 2015 #260

For an "evidence-based person" ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #267

If Bernie Sanders is nominated, I (and my "fat cat" friends) will work like hell to get him elected. brooklynite Sep 2015 #268

well that is good to hear restorefreedom Sep 2015 #270

"Difficulty" is putting it mildly. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #271

same for me and my evil, centrist, moderate friends redstateblues Sep 2015 #274

i never said hillary supporters want to lose restorefreedom Sep 2015 #269

As I appreciate your thoughtful response ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #278

the socialist meme works for you guys restorefreedom Sep 2015 #280

Sorry, I keep forgetting ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #287

i actually don't think most of that matters restorefreedom Sep 2015 #288

The fact is ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #292

as with many things...... restorefreedom Sep 2015 #294

In 2014, the non-voting population was 63% of those eligible eridani Sep 2015 #365

I cannot recommend this enough mcar Sep 2015 #356

Thanks, mcar. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #359

Great post Nance. We can elect a nominee in the DNC who hopefully win the GE or we can Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #358

Exactly. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #360

The lesser would be a Republican getting elected and we would receive lesser. Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #361

Well, you've undoubtedly seen ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #362

Dems who support Sanders would mostly support Clinton. The ones who will never support Clinton are- eridani Sep 2015 #366

Interesting theory. I'm not going to flame you, but PatrickforO Sep 2015 #289

i think you spelled it out quite well. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #293

That does sound sad. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #304

ok, i'll be at the windmill... restorefreedom Sep 2015 #316

I have read this thread for hours and came back again. Prairiegale Sep 2015 #373

i was pleasantly surprised restorefreedom Sep 2015 #374

As a progressive I think Prairiegale Sep 2015 #375

i am hopeful again too restorefreedom Sep 2015 #376

Umm... you do know that Hillary is way ahead in national polls right? taught_me_patience Sep 2015 #290

the trendlines are not in her favor restorefreedom Sep 2015 #295

If they succeed in cramming Clinton down our throats... 99Forever Sep 2015 #291

Hillary thought being liberal on social issues was all she needed to do to win the primary. jalan48 Sep 2015 #296

Regardless which political party "wins" wundermaus Sep 2015 #300

the kennedys restorefreedom Sep 2015 #315

John Kennedy was so ahead of his time he had a Republican head the Department Of Defense... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #328

No flaming here. I said something similar myself, that sometimes it almost looks sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #301

hard to believe, restorefreedom Sep 2015 #314

It's like 1968. Ken Burch Sep 2015 #305

Don't agree that Clinton can't beat a Republican--they are all really, really shitty eridani Sep 2015 #306

Clinton can't GOTV. She's not revving people up. For ex~ RiverLover Sep 2015 #312

the people outside the normal Democratic circles ibegurpard Sep 2015 #320

yes, its the restorefreedom Sep 2015 #313

it has been a disastrous electoral strategy ibegurpard Sep 2015 #321

Likely that the conservative interests in the Democratic party would rather NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #318

In the USPS we face this every day PATRICK Sep 2015 #323

It's really nice to hear concern for our grand old USPS, Patrick. Hortensis Sep 2015 #332

Imo, it is self interest PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #355

DNC/DWS is ignoring the "Victory Task Force" report findings Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #325

That's certainly deliberate. Nt HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #331

Exactly! They can't assert ignorance following the task force report findings Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #336

More a matter of willing to accept greater risks, if they stand to gain more Babel_17 Sep 2015 #327

Very same thought crossed my mind earlier today. We are no longer dems vs repubs corkhead Sep 2015 #329

... Faux pas Sep 2015 #334

... SidDithers Sep 2015 #339

The Dem establishment is destoying the Democratic party. nt Zorra Sep 2015 #343

Don't know if Dem Establishment is trying to lose, but sure not trying to WIN Dems to Win Sep 2015 #346

I came to Democratic Underground olddots Sep 2015 #347

Nah, they just insist on not losing it and getting a democratic socialist president HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #372