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Motown_Johnny

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69. Where do you get that the State Dept.'s system was that bad?

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 01:18 PM

Sep 2015

I have not heard her try to validate her private server by criticizing the State Departments. maybe I missed it.

The initial response from her campaign was that she didn't want to carry two phones. She has said it was a matter of convenience that turned out to not be convenient at all.

Basically, all I get from her is that she was too lazy to bother with a second email account, no matter the security risks.

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Re: Hillary's email brouhaha, a point of view I haven't seen brought up elsewhere [View all] Fumesucker Sep 2015 OP

Of course, when we do have efforts to do something, we end up with a computer system like... Human101948 Sep 2015 #1

Considering the general atmosphere of obstruction in Washington. Half-Century Man Sep 2015 #3

I'm not an IT expert, but in general, I'm pretty sure that implementing a functional... BlueEye Sep 2015 #6

Perhaps Hillary realized she was not an IT expert? Human101948 Sep 2015 #10

Because he was a Republican. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #14

End up with? the launch was just that, a launch, under deadline pressure. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #11

Excuses, excuses... Human101948 Sep 2015 #16

It's what I did for a job for over a decade. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #17

It's working smoothly now and has been for a long while brush Sep 2015 #56

WA state's worked like a charm artislife Sep 2015 #52

OR state's fail was tightly coupled to alleged malfeasance by Oracle corp. 0rganism Sep 2015 #70

Good point. Half-Century Man Sep 2015 #2

Meh, it depends on what could have been done. Vattel Sep 2015 #4

Meh. She was part of a much larger system that she couldn't turn around pnwmom Sep 2015 #5

Any evidence she attempted to turn it around and failed? Android3.14 Sep 2015 #8

You can't 'turn around' part of an overall system. As has already COLGATE4 Sep 2015 #13

They don't have a separate technological set-up there. There was a schedule for pnwmom Sep 2015 #21

Government is inefficient and slow and top administrators know there's nothing that can be done Fumesucker Sep 2015 #67

Appropriate observation Android3.14 Sep 2015 #7

I don't think so... Human101948 Sep 2015 #9

I doubt anyone would consider Fumesucker as rightwing Android3.14 Sep 2015 #12

And perhaps you should follow his example! Human101948 Sep 2015 #15

That's one of my favorite memes right there. Kudos Autumn Sep 2015 #32

boom! RiverLover Sep 2015 #37

DU went wacko for a bit. I will send you the jusry results on your other OP. Autumn Sep 2015 #41

Thanks! RiverLover Sep 2015 #45

actually primary time is exactly when these problems should be worked out questionseverything Sep 2015 #65

Her ability to lead is an issue. Android3.14 Sep 2015 #29

Her ability to lead an IT department? Human101948 Sep 2015 #35

Yes, the State Department's IT Android3.14 Sep 2015 #36

Yes, Obama failed to anticipate problems with the ACA and with the hack... Human101948 Sep 2015 #39

Odd. I'm not demanding anything Android3.14 Sep 2015 #49

Oh, a palpable hit! You must have earned an A in that class! Human101948 Sep 2015 #51

Day-to-day she isn't responsible, but she is responsible for the overall direction jeff47 Sep 2015 #38

People are ignoring the enormous bureaucracy she was working within. pnwmom Sep 2015 #22

She brought war to Libya, peace to Northern Ireland but can't bring better email to her department? Fumesucker Sep 2015 #26

Have you ever worked in a bureaucracy as huge as the US government's? pnwmom Sep 2015 #42

I haven't brought peace to Northern Ireland or dodged sniper fire in Tuzla either Fumesucker Sep 2015 #47

Yes. jeff47 Sep 2015 #59

Not according to her own words. Android3.14 Sep 2015 #28

Honestly I think this is a non-issue TBF Sep 2015 #18

Leadership qualities are important in a President Fumesucker Sep 2015 #23

We need a leader who understands TBF Sep 2015 #34

Look after your troops and your troops will look after you Fumesucker Sep 2015 #53

Imagine TBF Sep 2015 #61

The SOS should spend her valuable time on rehabbing the email system, right, got it. Darb Sep 2015 #19

Time? No. The resources and IT staff at her disposal? Yes. Chan790 Sep 2015 #20

She spent time on her personal email... Fumesucker Sep 2015 #24

Maybe she could delegate someone to handle that task.. frylock Sep 2015 #62

I haven't heard that either. You are breaking new ground in the field of Hillary-hating. DanTex Sep 2015 #25

You've got mail... Fumesucker Sep 2015 #27

Seems like an easy rule to comply with, no? NowSam Sep 2015 #30

I guess ultimately I know what I think of Republicans who do this sort of thing Fumesucker Sep 2015 #33

The basic problem with this scandal is there's no scandal Onlooker Sep 2015 #31

Absolutely correct.. Human101948 Sep 2015 #40

You appear to be questioning my credibility Fumesucker Sep 2015 #50

What is your practical professional advice in this case? Human101948 Sep 2015 #54

Should do or should have done? Fumesucker Sep 2015 #57

Actually, she really, really screwed up. jeff47 Sep 2015 #43

Before I just thought it was "dumb" artislife Sep 2015 #55

Who cares about standards and best practices? frylock Sep 2015 #63

Keep flipping over rocks. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #44

yep...like reply #43...there it is! RiverLover Sep 2015 #46

Wait. The State Department email was unreliable? SheilaT Sep 2015 #48

Who would announce they hacked her account? jeff47 Sep 2015 #58

If you read the thread the answer to your question is apparent Fumesucker Sep 2015 #60

In which case, every single State Department employee SheilaT Sep 2015 #64

Not crappy as in insecure so much as crappy as in slow and unreliable Fumesucker Sep 2015 #66

Now I'm very confused. SheilaT Sep 2015 #68

Where do you get that the State Dept.'s system was that bad? Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #69