2016 Postmortem

jeff47

(26,549 posts)

20. No, zero is the same as zero.

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 06:55 PM

Sep 2015

Saying the word "free" solves all your problems. It is a lazy way to tackle real issues.

Constructing strawmen based on your poor understanding of your opponents position is the lazy way to discuss real issues.

Clinton's plan puts students into a worse economic position, and incentives higher tuition - if students can take out more debt, that's more they can pay in tuition.

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Sanders vs. Clinton: Who Has the Best Plan for America's College Students? [View all] jkbRN Sep 2015 OP

Pretty much sums it up. Thanks for posting! HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #1

best plan is to de-privatize them and go back to government funded and operated. worked fine for msongs Sep 2015 #2

Martin O'Malley, DEBT FREE COLLEGE elleng Sep 2015 #3

Honest question, jkbRN Sep 2015 #9

several pieces: elleng Sep 2015 #13

So, it's not debt free? jkbRN Sep 2015 #21

It is not magically debt free immediately. elleng Sep 2015 #23

I see, the title of your first comment is jkbRN Sep 2015 #24

Yes, that's how the campaign labels it. elleng Sep 2015 #29

I am the OP, jkbRN Sep 2015 #32

Yes, you are! Sorry I didn't recognize that! elleng Sep 2015 #35

No worries! I've always liked omalleys plan jkbRN Sep 2015 #38

Glad you like his plan. elleng Sep 2015 #39

Pick a plan, pick an issue. No matter what it is Bernie wins, hands down. Autumn Sep 2015 #4

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #5

Yet another issue where both Sanders and O'Malley hifiguy Sep 2015 #6

The President does not write tax policy upaloopa Sep 2015 #7

I would rather fight for a plan that I believe in jkbRN Sep 2015 #11

Fine eat pie in the sky upaloopa Sep 2015 #15

for people... ibegurpard Sep 2015 #18

Yes, I vote based on ideas jkbRN Sep 2015 #22

I say this a lot here. We all look st the same upaloopa Sep 2015 #46

Clinton's plan also requires Congress. jeff47 Sep 2015 #14

Hillary's plan has a better chance of getting through upaloopa Sep 2015 #17

No, zero is the same as zero. jeff47 Sep 2015 #20

Clinton wants to 'bend the cost curve' in higher education-Hillary Clinton’s college affordability p riversedge Sep 2015 #26

You are like living in a fantasy world jkbRN Sep 2015 #27

Personally , I think bernie is a PosterChild Sep 2015 #43

how refreshing. at last a pro Bernie post that doesn't involve screaming HRC is a demon from Hell. Bill USA Sep 2015 #8

Somebody has to pay for it. I have no problem with families that can afford it paying. Hoyt Sep 2015 #10

So make those families pay via taxes. jeff47 Sep 2015 #12

I think woth either candidates plan, wealthier people would have to pay mire in taxed. Hoyt Sep 2015 #19

Do you really think congress would pass anything that Hillary wants? jkbRN Sep 2015 #30

She's practical enough to get something of value, even if she has to threaten Hoyt Sep 2015 #33

If you have the photos then you go for the deal you want or probably even better TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #40

Richard (RJ) is a writer and editor with the Bernie 2016 campaign, riversedge Sep 2015 #16

K & R!!! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #25

Can we see Sanders plan? BlueWaveDem Sep 2015 #28

Sounds like a biased interpretation Evergreen Emerald Sep 2015 #31

+1. Again, I applaud him for wanting to do those things. He's just not realistic. Hoyt Sep 2015 #36

Hum, seems like Bernie's plan helps the 1%, funny how that works, everyone getting free college, Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #34

Sanders clearly! Fearless Sep 2015 #37

K&R Paka Sep 2015 #41

Sanders clearly has a better GOAL skepticscott Sep 2015 #42

+100 !! (NT) PosterChild Sep 2015 #44

Hillary is just trying to teach those lazy poor people the work ethic. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #45